Cheers for that, Tracy. Can't wait for the fun.
Hi
I have an English friend who owns a holiday home in France. She has a TV in it receiving only English Channels (French channels just cannot be watched on that TV).
Do you happen to know if she needs to declare having a TV or not to the tax offices (for the Taxe audio-visuelle) ?
If her TV could indeed receive French channels, I am sure she would have to declare her TV but this case is a bit borderline...
Thank you in advance for any valid info you might have on the topic.
Here are the official dates for the tax returns
:-) I'm sure it will take a while to filter down to the nice people who work at the Hotel des Impots.
Not any more, Tracy. This year's form apparently says Déclarant 1 and Déclarant 2. PC reigns! But I bet if you put your income under Déclarant 1 someone will say that should be your husband!
That's confirms what I thought. If you are married, you are joined at the hip - and don't forget ladies, when you fill out the form 'Monsieur' is 'VOUS' and 'Madame' is 'CONJOINT' - I had to do ours again the first time I filled it in, despite the fact that at the time, I was the only one earning in France and my husbands income was from the UK.
We are married under the separation des biens and still make a joint declaration.
Yes, it's income. I used to give them a sheet of paper with a breakdown of my UK state pension, which is paid in sterling into my UK account, and add that to my French pensions income. Until, that is, someone decided it needed to be added again and I got a whopping tax bill. I now declare the UK income on form 2047K which is specifically for income earned abroad. There's a section for pensions income. It instructs you to carry forward the total to the pensions income section of the main income tax form 2042K.
Hi Kathleen, When I switched from the UK to the French tax regime, I made an appointment with my inspector of taxes. She was a lovely lady and when she saw I had tried to separate my state pension from two small private pensions on the return, took snopake from a drawer, obliterated my entries, added the three amounts together and entered the new total as 'income', and then photocopied the return to give me a copy. She went on to explain the only difference would be a 'public service pension', such as the armed services or civil service. I've gone along with that advice since when doing my return online.
I also received the attestation fiscale 2012 for ae and was trying to find the deadline date for form 2042C on the impots website with no success, so I am pleased to hear it is 27th May.
We don't have a contract de mariage. I need to get one now.
I have one of my two small UK pensions paid into a UK account and the other paid here in euros. I have always declared the two of them as 'income'. Is this not what they are?
At the bottom of page four of form 2042K it says (section 8, Divers) they want a list of your "comptes bancaires à l'étranger". It also asks for "contrats d'assurance-vie conclus à l'étranger". I have never listed my UK bank accounts here but as I declare my UK income on form 2047K my local tax inspector knows full well I have an account in the UK and he's never suggested I should give him the full details. I told him once that my current account produced a minimal amount of interest each year (almost more than my so-called savings account though!) and he said to ignore it. Basically not worth the hassle cos it's a small sum from which UK tax has been deducted at source. So a lot of paperwork and effort for no gain. Suspect they're more interested in finding French people who have accounts abroad.
Has anyone got a link to the actual wording? Because I’m thinking that accounts is quite different to assets to income to funds etc etc etc…
It is a tricky one isn't it. We both have a tiny amount to keep accounts open, so why declare and cause complications? My daughters both have trust accounts which are in my name until they are old enough to have own accounts. I was advised that I should declare them and pay tax. Neither are in my name but I have them against my name because of banking regulations so why give away their money? I know we are supposed to declare but also share Mark's apprehension because they may decide X in back taxes is due. In the UK children are exempted so nothing has been paid, here they would demand quite a large chunk of what is essentially very little interest, so I think I shall continue as had. But then our retired neighbours, the wife having worked at a local trésorerie until her pension and knows about revenues, both have a pot of money outside France that they have no intention of declaring...
And whilst on Impots sur le revenu did you see the new dates:
- For a paper statement: it will be necessary to send it at the latest by Monday, May 27th at midnight (the cancellation time).
- For an online statement: for departments 01 - 19, deadline Monday, June 3rd at midnight. For departments 20 - 49, deadline Friday, June 7th at midnight. For departments 50 - 974, deadline Tuesday, June 11th at midnight.
- For a statement as non-resident: online or by paper before Monday, June 17th at midnight for the inhabitants in Europe or in the countries of Mediterranean coastal region, in North America and in Africa. Before July 1st at midnight for all the others.
Umm, good question, i did know about this but as we don't have any money in the accopunt, we've never declared any overseas accounts either - but if they are interested in our UK bank loan and credit card they're welcome to it!
Yes, that sounds correct. And we had to go to the tax office to pick our forms up last year. I seem to recall that the forms weren't available until May as well. We went in earlier and had to return later. Hope this helps!
Hi Tracy. I've sold some shares in the UK during 2012 to help pay for my daughter's higher education. It wouldn't be enough to be subject to capital gains tax in the UK, but might be taxable in France. I imagine the regulations are complicated and perhaps too complicated for this kind of forum, so if anyone knows of a good English-speaking advisor/accountant who wouldn't charge a fortune for a chat by telephone, then recommendations gratefully received.
I read with alarm Hilary's posting that you have to declare any overseas bank accounts. My wife's accountant who completes the 'foyer's' tax declaration has never mentioned this, so I've never given any information about my UK account. If I suddenly declare one now, they might question why I've suddenly declared it now and not in the past. Any words of succour also greatly received.
Did the Revenue send the letter to your French address Celeste?