It would be worth people looking at the 2022 thread and guide as 99% is identical.
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It does seem to change extremely little from year to year - at least it has for the 6 years Iâve done them.
Whatâs also good about the French tax return site as opposed to my experience with HMRC is the the help pages are actually helpful and informative!
I agree, and to try and help @letsmile and others, Iâd tried yesterday to locate the 2022 guide, but I couldnât access it. It seems to have been removed from Grahamâs Dropbox where he posted it last year. If anyone has saved a copy of the guide from last year, perhaps they could consider posting it here, so others can benefit?
@letsmile Youâll see from a few posts further up this thread, a number of us have done the return online this year, for the first time. Bar one or two minor functionality glitches mentioned by others and myself above, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the online tool was actually fairly intuitive. Dialogue boxes would appear, eg to recommend starting with the annexes, before entering details in the main return, or one prompting you to consider whether to treat all investment income etc at the flat rate or at progressive rates. I also had a few goes first at the simulater (on the ImpĂ´ts site) so I was more familiar with what to expect in terms of format, layout, areas likely to be of interest etc.
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Yes I couldnât find it either.
@graham is around, just hasnât posted for a while so perhaps if we all ask nicely heâll repost?
Yes, I had two at one time from being employed and also being on OH account. I got it sorted and went with my own newer one eventually. Contact the CPAM direct to sort it out.
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What I found very annoying and confusing was the little pen symbol at the end of the line for use in changing stuff, butâŚthey did not line up exactly with the boxes if you wanted to change and I had to try twice to find which one worked for the box I changed.
Agreed.
I donât know what others experienced but after successfully completing my first online return, I felt utterly drained, as if Iâd just done my driving test or come out of a tough exam!
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Yes and the mes biens immobiliers thing to declare came up on mine with nothing registered as not known so that has worried me but then nothing has been declared that the property is finished yet either until all the fencing is completed and the H1 is sent in.
Wow, finally just worked my way through the thread with a very warm cup of green tea 
Reading all the exchanges on declaration of UK rental income in particular certainly puzzled me, as for the last two years Iâve declared UK rental income obviously both in France and the UK. It is taxed in the UK, not taxed in France but included on the tax declaration as it is important that the French tax authorities know the value to credit to your French allowance i.e. although not actually taxed in France, it is used, and taken into account, to calculate your tax band for total declared income.
And when Iâve completed the forms for the two separate tax regimes, I have actually calculated the income and expenses according to the two different tax years. Yes this has been more work, but I wanted to make sure I didnât fall foul of either tax authority.
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@letsmile
My original post which started this thread was simple âŚwhen doing a French return and having uk rental income does one use the net income figure from the immediate prior HMRC return (on which you might pay uk tax) and which is a figure from an official return OR
work out the income less deductions (using the deductions HMRC would allow) to give French authorities a figure that is for Janâ -Decâ but is not a figure reconciled to the tax juristriction ie the UK with any official validationâŚ
As of now there seem to be conflicting views with no definitive answer
So trueâŚafter 35+ years in the tax business, this is so often the case! Tax legislation is unfortunately rarely simple or clear, and interpretation is often necessary.Taxpayers/their advisers can honourably and legitimately differ, a) from the views of other advisers/taxpayers, and b) from the Fisc. The courts, usually the ultimate authority, can land on yet another positionâŚ
The professional rule of thumb in the (frequent) case of conflicting interpretations, was to identify and select the position that had a ârealistic possibility of being sustained on its merits if challenged by the tax authorities.â.
Morning Letsmile
Can really recommed the site. They helped me out with a tax query couple of years ago.
Great bunch of people just like SF
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The problem with the 2042 formulaire - pre remplie - is the âreportâ button. Not really figuring out what that was all about, clicked it, faffed about, signed out, signed back in and then that page wasnât there. Seems now it is a matter of re-entering details on 3916 which brings me to the point you make about âelectronic matchingâ because one is asked for the date of opening an account⌠what do you reckon happens when the date doesnât match?
I know you asked @graham but, for my experience having had to re-enter everything last year after faffing about, absolutely nothing!
I had to invent a date for a couple of very long-running UK accounts and Iâm sure I wouldnât have invented the same date twiceâŚ
Hello - Having just completed my return online I just wanted to mention that before you go anywhere near the 3916 page you must tick the 8UU under âDIVERSâ that way you wont lose any of your accounts that were added in previous years if you donât tick this box you will be inputting them all over again .
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Morning, will you be producing your sheets for filling in the Tax Return.
Found them wevy useful last year
Thanks
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Does anyone know what the official annual ÂŁ-⏠exchange rate has been set at? I find it easier to use the annual average rather than convert each individual transactionâŚ
Thanks in advance.
Brian
Me too. Someone above gave 1.158 as the âofficialâ figure
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Ah - sorry. I had searched but failed to find it.
1.158 seems high - I think that most of my conversions were well below that! Perhaps Iâd better âdo the rightâ thing and find the official French rate for each transaction 
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