You voted for it!
aïe, aïe, aïe ! Je pense que le plupart de ceux qui sont ici sur ce forum ont bien voté “remain”! 
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I beg to differ - I definitely did not vote for this. 
Not in 2016
Not in 2017
And not in 2019
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Hurrah for BREXIT it just keeps on giving lol. The poor old Brits thought that free movement only applied to migrants into Britain surely Brits would still be allowed to travel and live wherever they want?
Unfortunately not there will be no negotiations for 2nd home owners as this has alraedy been sted by the British negotiators.
So your alternatives will be
- 90 days in any 180.
2, 180 day visitor visa which is only granted if you have full health insurance cover around £400 a month without pre existing conditions and is age dependent, have proof of income and property - Residency get here before the end of the year and apply online.
The 6 month visa is used by Australian friends of ours who have a house in LODEVE and is easy to apply for online in your country of residence.
The only way this can change is if the anti-immigrant Boris/Cummings junta decide to let Europeans have unlimited visas and that is not going to happen.
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I think you are right about this - I don’t think that there was any perception at all of the fact that sauce for the gander is also sauce for the goose. (Reminds me of a short fantasy story about a creepy student boy who intends to summon up a power-giving monster which devours virgins and persuades a female classmate neighbour to come into his room when he does so, thinking it will eat her - naturally she escapes and of course it eats him).
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spot on Veronique!
I disagree with that. This stuff was thrashed out and is writ large in the WA.
I have researched the possibility of moving from one country of registered residency to another within the EU after 31/12/20. Not poss under FoM rules.
One could by applying as a third country national, like Oz, US, Zaire et al. But being reg as res in an EU country already will be no help.
We can agree to disagree…
I thought there was just recently a new bit agreed … which was to the benefit of us Brits in France/EU… hanging onto more EU status benefits… but I (and others) may have misunderstood…
If there can be no useful additions… what is the point in all these various discussions… ah well… it’ll all come out in the wash… perhaps.
There is discussion at the moment to allow FoM provided you have a residency card/permit, whether that will come to anything is another matter. 
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cheers Tim… seems I’m not going potty after all… 
as I understand it… with these discussions, things are not meant to get any worse… but they might get better… 
Unfortunately, the restriction on this was insisted on by the EU.
The UK wanted a more liberal interpretation including UK citizens in France having continuing Freedom Of Movment within the EU27. The EU27 said that this was a matter for negotiation between the EU27 and the UK on the terms of a future EU27/UK relationship.
That is almost certainly against the EU treaties & principles and capable of being challenged not only in the CJEU but also the ECtHR.
Precisely. Michel Barnier is happy to let pointless discussions run, but he and the heads of state have made it pretty clear where they stand on this issue. Maybe if the UK gave way on fish, ECJ and tariffs they would consider it again 
Registering as a resident in France doesn’t mean you have to give up the UK.
As a UK citizen you are entitled to return to the UK as often as you wish.
If you qualify as a resident here apply for a CdS, you should be able to do so from 1st Oct, unless the French come up with a reason for deferring things again, it can’t do any harm.
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But it wouldn’t be reciprocal, would it. Would all of us from the EU have FOM to go to the UK? No, because ‘brexit means brexit, dunnit’ - so that proposition is really just the old having cake and eating it yet again. Your government obviously doesn’t care about its citizens here, and I think it is a bit rich expecting French etc authorities to be more accommodating than they already are.
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Not ‘my Government’ thank you very much! I may not be able to vote here but my Government is here…
Veronique.
If you have the right to reside in the UK your freedom of movement between the EU27 states and the UK are guaranteed.
But for those of us from the UK that have committed to the EU ideals and have decided to reside in an EU27 country using our fundamental rights as EU citizens are being denied those fundamental rights by the EU27.
That breaches the ideals, principles and treaties of the EU that we have supported, voted for and campaigned for.
I don’t want my “cake and to eat it” I just want my rights as an EU citizen.
What the EU27 propose is that they will grant me rights that are less than they will grant to long-term residents from third-country states ignoring the fact that I am, even now, an EU citizen.
Both the EU27 and the UK want to use EU27 in the UK and UK citizens in the EU27 as negotiating pawns. That is far from the principled ideals embodied in the principles, ideals and treaties that the EU is founded on.
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But you won’t be an EU citizen any more. Unfortunate but there it is.
Collateral damage I’m afraid.
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I’ve been saying that since my mid 20’s
I don’t follow quite what you mean?
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I’m not sure even Grahame himself knows either. 
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