Anybody Speak 'Doctor' Here, French or English?

Managed to download and print off my IRM right shoulder results from last Friday.
Very long and I knew that I wouldn’t understand it even translated to English, but I’ll print below the conclusions in English and would like to know what they are. Both versions so that my translations can be compared.

CONCLUSION :
Old headdress rupture appearance with tendon retraction, muscular atrophy and involution
Fat of muscle bodies.
Associated decent starter occentric omarthrosis

Conclusion:
Aspect de rupture de coiffe ancienne avec retraction tendineuse, amyotrophie et involution graisseuse des corps muculaires.
Omarthrose excentree debutante associee.

Just about the only things that mean anything are my ancient coiffes and the appearnce of a debutante from somewhere. In other words all Greek to me, not even Double Dutch. :astonished_face:

Any medical offers? :thinking:

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Yes David, you are getting old

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“ Appearance of rupture of the old cap with tendon retraction, amyotrophy and fatty degeneration of the muscle bodies.

Associated early-stage eccentric osteoarthritis.”

From DeepL which appears to handle both context and technical French better than Google Translate.

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Thank you, but not sure I am much further forward. I have tried booking a rdv with the doctor but the usual route via DocClic doesn’t seem to be working it thinks I am in Belfort, about as far away in France as I could be from here.

Old (rotator) cuff rupture with tendon retraction…

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You might be better using chatgpt - making sure you provide the context - works better than just translations - though chatgpt will also translate

Your rotator cuff is the main bit of your shoulder, the 4 muscles and a tendon that actually do the work. At some point in the past you ripped the tendon, and this tendon is still damaged and not properly attached. The muscles have also shrunk, and have been replaced by fat cells - can be age related.

You also have the beginning of osteoarthritis in that shoulder. But because the tendon was damaged this means that the whole head of the shoulder is out of kilter, so the damage to the cartilage is also uneven.

Some kiné sessions will possibly help.

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I’m a doctor…your report sounds typical of an old injury with nothing acute…

Was this scan ordered due to a new injury or chronic problems?

Thank you, @MonsieurMiell , yes a new injury, I fell in the forest just before Christmas and dislocated that shoulder. The IRM was ordered by the hospital where I was taken to relocate it. It has been getting better extremely slowly but each day a bit more movement.

And yes, @JaneJones I am off in an hour for the 8th of 20 sessions of Kine which is helping a lot. 10 minutes under the lamp and then a similar time of manipulation with her. Both are really good.

I wouldn’t have bothered with checking the results because I was sure I would understand little of them, but the method I use to get a rdv with the doc, who will have them, have failed. ClicDoc is not working at the moment, I’ll try again.

Signs of previous injury and ongoing problems are a surprise because there was nothing wrong before the fall but, to be expected at 83 I suppose, so will see what he says when I finally see the doctor.

Thanks everyone for the info. :smiley:

BTW I know the main damage was to the muscle rather than anything else because I have full command of my arm and hand below the elbow and can lift that arm high with the other one without pain, but cannot lift even as far as the horizontal by itself.

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All the best David some of those physio’s can work magic.

This one is wonderful, she is so good that I have to work hard to suppress groans of pleasure when she does the final massage in case it is misconstrued. :rofl:

Just before I go out for my kine again I had a quick look at humeral head and found this:

Proximal humerus fractures are common fractures often seen in older patients with osteoporotic bone following a ground-level fall on an outstretched arm.

Never thought to look up the words myself. I didn’t know about osteoporotic bone but it certainly fits my case.

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But there’s no mention of osteoporotic bone David? Has someone said this? The report just says omarthrosis, which is latin for arthritis (arthrosis) of the shoulder (oma). Osteoporosis is a different thing that you really don’t want!

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Sorry @JaneJones , I only showed you the conclusion, as I said the full report is much longer and I thought it was mentioned there, but have just looked and I realise now it is mentioned in the report in English that I read online while translating.

I suppose I should be grateful for small mercies, and thank you for pointing it out.

Just got back from a much longer session, after the normal heat lamp, manipulation and massage she had me doing 50 ups and downs to a couple of pulleys and then 10 more minutes climbing up a wooden frame with my arms alone, hard work still can’t lift the right arm high enough to grasp the next bar and have to use the spider movement, stretching my fingers for a weak hold and then pulling the arm up to the next bar.

Hard work and 10 minutes late for Jules’ twice weekly cod dinner. :roll_eyes:

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:slight_smile: ..

Sorry to butt in David…there’s no fractures on your scan, you have minor OA which is something that can be seen on x rays of people in their late 20s!

Keep working on it with your physio & things will slowly improve :flexed_biceps: :folded_hands:

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Thank you, not butting in at all, advice was sought and has been all useful and as far as I can see, accurate so far.

It was precisely because I knew that I wouldn’t understand the results, in either language, that I asked in the first place. :smiley:

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In plain English, that conclusion means:

There is an old tear of a tendon in the shoulder.

(“Old headdress rupture” is almost certainly a mistranslation of old rotator cuff rupture.)

The torn tendon has pulled back (retracted).

This usually happens when a tear has been there for a while.

The related muscle has shrunk and weakened (muscle atrophy).

Some of the muscle has been replaced by fat.

This is called fatty degeneration and is common in long-standing tendon tears.

There is also moderate shoulder arthritis.

“Eccentric omarthrosis” means wear-and-tear arthritis of the shoulder joint, where the joint surfaces are no longer perfectly centred.

What this means overall

This is describing a long-standing rotator cuff tear with muscle damage and moderate shoulder arthritis.

In practical terms, this often causes:

Weakness lifting the arm

Pain (especially at night)

Reduced range of movement

Difficulty reaching overhead

Because it’s described as old, it’s usually not a fresh injury — it’s something that has developed over time.