Interestingly, the Géant Casino at Castres (in the Tarn) is closing and will reopen as Leclerc. People commenting on Facebook saying the same thing is happening in Albi, Montauban and Castelnaudry. Presumably elsewhere as well.
So many changes all at the same time.
Bricks and Mortar retail is not a good place to be in the 21st century
Perhaps Paul but itâs a little different in France. There is no grocery delivery service by the large supermarkets unlike in the UK so people have to go shopping for groceries.
I wonder if it is a specific issue for Auchan and Casino? If Leclerc are taking over some of the Casino stores then they must think they are viable.
I think Lidl and Aldi are having a big impact on peopleâs shopping habits which has meant the large retailers have had to re-focus, Carrefour now only have one big store in 17 but have opened several âCityâ type small shops.
I have to agree Tim. I used to shop at Lidl in preference to the bigger stores because it was often better value and better quality with good Label Rouge meat and locally sourced fresh produce.
The real hard discount shops like Netto and Leader Price are even cheaper.
Carrefour opened a small town centre shop in the local town to where I used to live but Iâm not sure how successful it was as the prices were higher and it was opposite a Leader Price. I rarely saw anyone in there.
There are four Lidlâs around Vichy which is great as itâs hard to go out without passing at least one
This is strange as in Cluny ATAC, which is owned by Auchan is expanding.
There is a Carrefour Market, Netto, whch has the best vegetables and a Casino in the town centre.
The market in France is a bit different, I agree - as is the culture, ethos, attitude and expectations. As you say the supermarkets arenât doing grocery deliveries and even Amazon Primeâs ânext dayâ service frequently seems to be ânext day dispatchâ with delivery actually in 2 business days - whereas I can often get same day evening delivery from Amazon if itâs stuff they have in stock at the right warehouse location.
However, I think that France will catch up on e-commerce which means that you might see big shake-ups just as we have in the UK.
Absolutely agree Paul.
Itâs a bit more complicated to operate a delivery service in France because the population is far more sparse. I can imagine a delivery service with conditions such as a distance limit and probably a higher delivery charge than in the UK.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out.
England is tiny and densely populated, compared to here - I think that is something people forget. Houra tested rural delivery years ago (about 18) and stopped, now they deliver only in urban and periurban areas, it just isnât worth it for them.
Itâs not just about the supermarkets (although this thread did start with that) - itâs the whole retail scene.
That said I completely agree that the geography/population density makes it different in France - the average is close to 1/3 that of the UK (although Scotland is only half that of France).
I donât know what youâre all on about
IntermarchĂ© have been offering home / office deliveries for some time in selected areas - do try and keep upâŠ
Deliberately contrary as ever Simon
As for supermarkets closing - well, it happens quite often down here exceptâŠthey never actually close. They simply reopen under one of the other brands, same staff - different âCan I Help Youâ badge !
It happened with the Shopi chain that became Carrefour Contact stores, Petit Casino that is currently appearing as Vival and even our massive Carrefour that became an Intermarché Hyper.
I believe itâs cheaper to keep them going than make everyone redundant!
That is why I said England (sorry, & Wales) and not the UK. My fatherâs family are Scottish and I went to school there so I am aware it is different.
I actually compared Great Britain (i.e UK - NI) but I donât think it alters the validity of the basic point.
However Tesco do cover remote parts of Scotland, not clear if that is because the land area and population are actually pretty small and they can âstand the lossâ of if it is profitable. There has been some grumbling from small shops about it affecting their business.
If you can make it work in Scotland, perhaps France is just a matter of time?
Already happened Paul - see post 12.
@anon88169868 âGreat Britain (i.e. UK - NI)â
Can that be right Paul? I thought Great Britain defined the larger of the two island land masses jointly called The British Isles, the smaller being Ireland.
Northern Ireland is not situated in Great Britain. Itâs in Ireland.
This often causes confusion, especially for non-British so, here goes.
Great Britain = England, Scotland, Wales (including adjacent islands e.g. Isle of Wight, Anglesey)
United Kingdom (technically âUnited Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)= (as the technical name suggests) England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales (sticking to alphabetical order to be PC)
British Isles = all the islands of Great Britain, Ireland, Scottish Isles, Isle of Man.
The Channel Islands are sometimes included because they are, sort of, British.
Various alternatives have been suggested to remove the word British (Anglo-Celtic Isles, Western Atlantic Archipelago, British-Irish Isles, etc.)