Arriving soon, 11kW for €349… 
So it’s arrived. Seems ok. @Badger here’s the English and French portion of the manual. It seems straight forward enough and the product seems decent quality and tough enough.
Lidl Car Charger.pdf (1.5 MB)
@Badger, a question if I may. I’ve changed the main tableau, all done properly now and I’m a lot more comfortable.
I now need to take down a partition wall that has the cabling to the garage attached to it, so that needs to come out. It needs redone anyway as it has two cable runs into the garage, one of which is sheathed and the other is a trio of individual conductors that are not properly double insulated.
The tableau in the garage is split in two, one side for the garage and the other for the car charger that the previous owner had, with each side being connected to one of the two aforementioned cable runs and having its own RCD.
I want to maintain the ability to fit a car charger at a later date but is it necessary to configure the tableau and cabling in this way or can I install a single run into the garage tableau and then any future car charger could just be hooked up to an appropriate disjoncteur ?
So in effect they form two separate tableaux? i.e. two 3-core feeds, each hooked up to an RCD/ID?
If possible I would endeavour to supply the EV charger directly from the main tableau, via it’s own 10mm² conductors (unless a long run forces that upwards). This would be isolated at the main tableau by a 40A disjoncteur & Type A (or, ideally Type HPI/FSI) inter-diff or a Type A (or HPI/FSI) 40A disjoncteur différentiel. This assumes that you have monophasé & would therefore fit a 7kW max. charger.
You could use a suitably sized single run for the whole garage & charger setup but that wouldn’t negate the extra ID or DD for the charger, but it would introduce more connections that will be carrying a high load for several hours at a time, which is always worth avoiding.
Exactly this.
Unfortunately, the main board is at the very front of the house and the parking is at the back. I’m thinking that I could take 16mm² to the sub-board in the garage (from an appropriate disjoncteur) and then either keep the board configuration as is or rationalise it to one RCD and suitable disjoncteurs.
I’m sure either is fine in terms of load capacity and I’m just thinking about the norme for car charging and if that would drive a particular solution.
That’s all possible. The supply to the “tableau divisionnaire” would need to be fed direct from it’s own 63A (or lower depending on length of run) disjoncteur in the main tableau & not via any 30mA ID/DD.
Once at the garage the new board will need local main isolation (an interrupteur-sectionnaire of 63A or above) prior to splitting to two 30mA IDs - one for the garage services & one specifically for the EV charging.
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Thanks. This is how I have it now with each cable attached to a 40A disjoncteur, which is more than adequate for the current (sorry!) load from the garage.
How’s it holding up John? I just looked and no sign of them on Lidls site. I’m searching for threads on chargers which is dilly before I even find out if I can get the social leasing 
I can’t find it either, but it was there a few months ago. I think Lidl buy in bulk and when things are gone, they’re gone. If they sold that well maybe they’ll do another run.
Ours is performing perfectly and is robust, I’m not worried about weathering and it’s partially covered by the abri roof and not in direct sunlight. They have the cable attached and I think I read some where that’s now illegal in France @Badger ? It was one of the reasons I bought it 
Our other one doesn’t, which meant I had to buy a second 7m cable at over €200 so that I could keep one in the car for charging at slow charges if I get stuck.
There were two versions, an 11kW and a 11/22kw. I bought the 11kW because our other one can hit 22kW (though most cars can’t) if we ever need it, and the cable we ran from the power board to the arbi would have had to be tougher and three phase. We only run it at 7kW anyway because the R5e never needs a big top up. However if it was our only one I’d opt for the 11/22kW as cars that can charge at 22kW A/C are now coming onstream.
Here’s the manual for ours (the 11kW) which has the Lidl IAN (part) number USBW 11 A2, so you can search by that. If you find that the 11/22kW will be beside it.
Lidl Car Charger.pdf (1.5 MB)
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Thanks John 
. I’m going to pop into Fiat and Renault in the next week or so. I’ve read all the info on the government pages ect and can’t find anything about needing a CDI so hoping that won’t be a stumbling block as I meet all the criteria for the social leasing scheme.
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Good luck Tory. The running costs are buttons once you get set up. It’s a real pleasure whizzing past petrol stations
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That’s one of the best bits, isn’t it? I might never have to go to a garage again.
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You can always charge at Supermarket till you sort out something at home. The important thing is to prepare your dossier to apply on opening day 30th September.
I looked at the L’Argus list of eligible vehiclea you posted and if I was avoiding Citroën and didn’t want the Peugeot Rifter monospace, the 2 VW’s don’t look poor value unlike some others on the list, just lower spec. Jjones and johnScully both had VW EV’s.
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I want to keep it under €150/ month ,(what I currently spend on diesel) do that knocks out a good few! The ones that appeal less have higher kms per charge though which is annoying
If I could afford it and still carting children round and for holidays I’d look at the Rifter. Not aure about the spec, but I’ve chatted to a few Rifter owners at supermarket and had a look round them and they seem very spacious vehicles.
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Just had to look up rifter…bit too close to grifter. @toryroo dont worry about a borne de recharge, just use a domestic socket. On tempo 8 hours at 2.2 kw should give you about 30% charge/100 km in a R5e
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@toryroo you’re fine if part-time.
Auto-moto.com always reliable and succinct says :
“salariés à temps plein, partiel, indépendant ou même avec un travail saisonnier.”
The actual vehicle usage criteria required bit is :
”… justifier et prouver que son véhicule personnel est indispensable pour aller au travail ou dans le cadre de déplacements professionnels. Ce afin d’exercer son activité.
and
“La partie du trajet entre votre domicile et votre lieu de travail, qui est effectuée exclusivement avec votre véhicule personnel, doit être strictement supérieure à 15 kilomètres,
ou vous devez effectuer plus de 8 000 kilomètres par an dans le cadre de votre activité professionnelle avec votre véhicule personnel”.
Source : Leasing social 2025, oubliez la voiture à 100 €/mois si vous gagnez trop
In another article they provided a list of the eligible vehicles sorted by price - much simpler.
Moins de 100 € par mois
Citroën ë-C3 – 95 €
Fiat Grande Panda électrique – 95 €
Hyundai Inster – 99 €
Entre 100 € et 149 € par mois
Citroën ë-C3 Aircross – 119 €
Renault R5 – 120 €
Fiat 500 électrique – 129 €
Peugeot e-208 – 135 €
Opel Frontera Electric – 139 €
Volkswagen ID.3 – 139 €
Fiat 600 électrique – 145 €
Citroën ë-Berlingo – 149 €
Opel Mokka Electric – 149 €
Peugeot e-2008 – 150 €
Skoda Elroq – 149 €
Entre 150 € et 200 € par mois
Peugeot e-Rifter – 155 €
Volkswagen ID.4 – 169 €
Renault R4 – 170 €
Citroën ë-C4 – 179 €
Jeep Avenger – 179 €
Lancia Ypsilon Elettrica – 179 €
Toyota Proace City Verso – 179 €
Cupra Born One – 189 €
Renault Mégane E-Tech – 195 €
Peugeot e-308 – 200 €
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Thanks, that makes me feel better, I should be fine FFS if they can’t allow teachers to get it there’s a problem!
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And we still have our ID3 and I love it. Particularly the safety rating, but also a joy to drive.
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