Can it get any worse....snipers firing on a hospital?

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I’m not sure why premature babies would be in ICU beds. My daughter was very premature, on the cusp really. We spent weeks beside her in her little incubator, she could never have been put on an ICU bed. I think there is tough propaganda on both sides, beheaded babies and babies in ovens from the Israelis and maybe this stuff from the other side. Either way it’s horrible.

The bottom line for me is that Israel has deliberately destroyed all the hospitals in northern Gaza. They showed an animation of the sophisticated ā€œcommand and control centreā€ under Al-Shifa Hospital to justify destroying it. All the ā€œevidenceā€ they found for that claim that I have seen, anywhere, are two AK47s, a pair of boots and a tunnel that goes nowhere.

IMO the IDF is destroying hospitals as part of the Israeli Government’s ethnic cleansing strategy. The rightwing bastards that are propping up the corrupt Netanyahu want to just displace the Palestiniens, whom they, like many West Bank settlers, regard as inferior human beings, from Gaza and annex it. Plain and simple.

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Could the timing for this latest atrocity be worse? More ammunition for the far right. So, so stupid.

NICU definitely a thing. I’d have thought premature babies quite likely to need intensive care.

Sure, our daughter did, but they are in incubators with all the usual ICU equipment around. That was a maternity hospital though so maybe they were improvising above. Even so I’m not sure how their temperature would be managed just lying on an adult bed.

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Completely off topic, but that’s a wonderfull photograph @John_Scully

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She was tiny :slightly_smiling_face: So proud of her today :heart_eyes:

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Wow, a wonderful snapshot John…isn’t life brilliant ?

My late wife was very premature, like you said John , ā€˜on the cusp’. Her first real bed when eventually leaving hospital was a draw in her parents bedroom.

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Isn’t Peter, and look what’s happening this morning. Heaven forbid I come across an Israeli face to face again.

https://twitter.com/1james_elder/status/1730475560323678402?s=20

Remember that, just as not all Palestinians are terrorists, not all Israelis are happy about randomly killing Palestinians.

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A tar brush is a dangerous tool.

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I know, I certainly know. And I have great admiration for those that speak out. And, for example I’ve contributed to B’Tselem. But this is too much.

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No sooner was AI available but just look what use mankind has found for it

The saddest thing, apart from AI being able to provide 100 targets in a day, is how easy it is to push a button that ends the lives of an indeterminate number of human beings to eliminate one.

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Yes, Israel’s very own industrialised ā€œfinal solutionā€ :cry:

Reading this

I cannot help, being by nature a conspiracist, thinking that it is possible in high level discussions Isreal knowingly decided to let the events evolve in order to justify a retaliation that would eliminate ā€˜the problem’ full and finally. They just miscalculated how successful the Hamas & friends incursion would be.

I am also wondering if Hamas is not fully in control of other groups, who may still be holding hostages for their own demands.

Yes, I’ve read elsewhere about the security analyst’s valiant attempts to warn her superiors of the impending attack. I have no doubt it’s true. I also half believe that the real intention of the attack, as argued by some Hamas ex advisor on the BBC a few days ago, was to overrun an IDF base and seize many soldiers as hostages. Then instead the Hamas madmen slaughtered the kids at the festival and the people in the kibutzim. People who were generally leftwing and supportive of a fair solution for Palestinians. What a stupid tragedy, just like the shooting of people at a bus queue yesterday.

Interestingly, from a paper I read today " On the morality of taking offence", it has now been widely accepted that impoliteness might on occasion be a hearer-generated perception, not necessarily in line with the speaker’s actual intention. Therefore, understanding the ā€œparticipants’ understandings and perceptionsā€ is an endeavour which requires further attention.

Not easy though…

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I agree with that. For example there are certain nationalities who are more forthright or blunt in conversation. The intention isn’t to offend, it’s just their style. The inverse is also true. People who keep dancing around the point and never spit it out :slightly_smiling_face:

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In this case it was right though :wink: