Can we do anything to stimulate the financial growth in France?

yes, for a long, long time and seem to understand what really goes on a lot better than others. Younger and wiser, well at 47 I'm not quite over the hill and having taught in higher education here, the next generation are so institutionalised that they'll never ever think outside the box and can't even believe that things can be easier/simpler and better! No, I think we're talking about real life that's all, not being pesimistic either, just realistic ;-)

PS where on earth did you get the "pain, the darkness and the fear" from?

PPS the French state gets, directly and indirectly, well over a million a year from my efforts so I think I'm contributing enough :-O

Yes Carole I understand the pain, the darkness and the fear that nothing will change or improve.

But France is not alone with problems.

You are not alone with yours.....I have been through more stress and tears than you can

imagine......here and in UK...... But each problem solved relates to yesterday.
Tomorrow is just hours away.....AND if you do not feel this way it is sad.

Someone I met a long time ago sang Who wants to live forever?

Well, I think that to an extent we all do.

So ambItion, determination does not deserve scorn.

Poetry in motion Brian.

Corruption lives almost everywhere....all villages....all countries.

Yes the problem is soooooh deep routed and some of you have been here in France for a long, long

time.

Many are younger and wiser.

But there is no reason to stop trying and no reason to crush my determination and hope.

seconded ! the problème is soooooo deep rooted that I can't see it ever changing. I remember a friend of mine telling me I should look for the threshold where it's not worth working past and stop there. I'd been here for a while and was working and couldn't quite grasp what he was saying - years later and in business he, and everyone else are so right - once you've earnt enough to cover your living costs and don't pay too much taxe and charges sociales you stop, anything else you earn goes straight to the state! I also have sooo many clients who "earn" more on the dole etc. than if they worked for the smic - mad world mais c'est la France...!

Find a way that shops can compete on price with other countries & the net. We are trying to buy a slow cooker (crock pot) The prices in France are 30-50% higher than the equivalent in GB & it's usually cheaper to buy in GB & pay postage to France!

Barbara, France is very complicated. Politically it is almost indefinable. By reputation it is a liberal democracy. In 1946 when Charles de Gaulle led the government that wrote a new constitution that established the Fourth Republic the country saw a period of government by coalitions. The die was cast then when the volatile nature of those coalitions and the subsequent lack of agreement on how to deal with colonies demanding independence that led to wars in Indochina and Algeria brought about a series of cabinet crises and rapid changes of government. Since then no government has actually got it 'right'. So history does not suggest an easy solution.

A financial solution is part of an economic question and is subject to the politics that have 'developed' (or not, as the case may be) under the present constitution. That constitution, if you bother to read it, is far from the notion of liberté, égalité, fraternité that one is always told is the foundation of this republic. The constitution says nothing about citizens and their rights, including their economic rights, but is purely about how France is administered. Thus said, France can stagger on and fail very easily.

At present fingers are pointing at France and accusing socialism of the situation it is in and figure headed by Hollande to boot. Neither Hollande nor the PS are at all 'socialist' but are a strange kind of post-Keynesian proto-capitalist party that have eschewed the Mitterand social and economic programme that Chirac brought to an abrupt halt. Chirac then cast the die with the economic reforms and austerity required for France to turn round the economy, especially stubbornly high unemployment that had persisted more or less since WWII ended. It has been continued by each party or coalition since, usually through taxation and whilst Sarko certainly saw a period of relative prosperity, crippling taxes and the death of small businesses was the price. Talk to local people about the shops and other local businesses that have gone under over recent decades. Look around villages, towns and cities and there are plenty of unoccupied premises, take note of 'houses' that are so clearly converted shops, cafés, restaurants, small hotels and so on. The economy does not support that and the constitution provides no real political protection for enterprising citizens (or other individuals).

Auctions? The vide greniers are, as a friend who buys and sells regularly from spring through to autumn says, are virtually an industry. Then there are the vide maisons, brocantes and all the rest of the public used and second hand markets. There are, indeed, lots of unwanted goods but to auction them? My OH bought a pair of unused Levis for €2 recently, I found a fairly new panel radiator for €4 that I saw on the leboncoin for an average of €80 and new is about €100. How on earth will auctions fare? Not only do you need insurance, but the taxes will sting you and using your barn for a commercial purpose will drive up your taxe foncière.

My OH and I are both AE. Because of health reasons I have done little work. Probably lots of idle threats are made, but it would be fiscally suicidal to abolish the status, so unlikely. Think of what else we can do in a country where its own people are struggling? This is France, not a prosperous SE England county. Plain facts of life like the constitution, economics, fiscality and the very varied nature of the French themselves (it is actually a country with five or six languages alone, let alone varied dialects, cultures, traditions and all else). On Thursday whilst my daughter was having a riding class, I was listening to two men from the local farming community waiting for their granddaughters. They were talking, using Perigourdine scattered with Occitan, about how much worse the French are than the foreigners. They especially spoke critically about Parisians. What they were doing was referring to people from neither Aquitaine and more specifically from the Perigord in this country who they consider 'foreign' and the context used to refer to people such as ourselves who they do not mind as much was far more positive. What they were talking about was how the 'French' are taking every cent out of this region and using it in Paris to pay corrupt and uncaring politicians to misrule us. One was talking about his grandson with a master's degree who earns €16 an hour as a junior clinical psychologist, therefore commutes an hour each way to and from work because he cannot afford a place of his own. Taxes and travel mean he has nothing left to save or go out for a beer with friends. How, he was asking, will he ever meet a 'girl' and settle down.

That is the economy we live in. We chose it. If we don't like it we can pack up and go. However, reality is that for many of us the odds are stacked against making the kind of contribution to the economy you are suggesting.

Sarkosy was rock and roll and it would have been better to stay with his wilder ways....

But Grhame Reynolds we need to move quicker even if it is in small doses.

Politics are not the answer....

MOVING in a positive direction....IS

Try to open a shop with other villagers....rent it;

Take over a premises and give it life.....

Auction rooms.....LOTS of unwanted goodies....provide a place to auction in you unwanted barn space.

Yes you will need insurance but do not let that stop you.