Changing thermostat - shocking discovery

The house we bought has UF heating fed by a Brötje - Heizung oil boiler which we hope to replace with a pompe chaleur. In the meantime I’m adding some smart control to the UF heating. Currently there’s just one seimens thermostat. I pulled the cover off and checked for mains voltage on the contacts (contactless sensor tool and neon). No power observed. I came back a few minutes later and the contact/s were live. I suspected the boiler was energising it intermittently. Asked Chat about it -
It told me - Quite right — and a very common one with older continental heating systems.

People are used to the idea that a thermostat line is either:

  • permanently live,
  • or permanently low-voltage.

But with boilers like your Brötje, the control feed is only energised when the boiler’s logic decides it should be. So someone testing the thermostat line can easily think:

  • “Ah, this isn’t live — safe to work on,”
    and then
  • a few minutes later the boiler runs a pump cycle, sends 230 V up the line, and suddenly the wire is live.

Fortunately I wouldn’t risk touching anything with the boiler still plugged in but I imagine some people have had a nasty surprise. I thought I’d mention it here as I’d never heard of this type of operation.

Well, golden rule for anything that may even slightly possibly have mains voltage running anywhere near it is make sure it’s all turned off. Don’t put you fingers anywhere near it until it’s 100% isolated from mains voltage. If you don’t want to, or don’t realise you have to, adhere to this rule then tough :poop: if it goes wrong. Here endeth the lesson.

Good man :+1:

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Yes one good Parisien friend in my old commune decided to remove the filter from his cooker extractor fan for cleaning and it almost sliced his fingers right off as the fan continued to turn as he had not flipped the fuse on the board to off

Great advice!

Applies in spades to power tools as well. I’ve seen people change blades on electric saws with them still plugged in. Potential mega-ouchery.