As I have been advocating for a few years savings of 90+% on the electricity for running the pool is not difficult, better filtration from Dryden Aqua AFM ng reduces chemical usage.
Grand frais have it fairly regularly, then local farmers may have it, and ask in your local halal butcher’s or online from people like pourdebon.
That’s a very nice looking swimming pool.

It would have a 100% impact on the environment if full of aquatic life
I forgot about the guilt trip of responsiblity.
Although there is much complexity in the detailed science, Floceen, I feel you are introducing quite unnecessary emotional complications into what is really a very simple situation. It’s not about telling others what to do, of feeling guilty about anything. It’s simply this:
- We have unsustainable lifestyles and economic arrangements
- If we don’t change both, and quickly, climate/ecological breakdown will ruin our lives (or - if we’re old - our children’s lives)
- To mitigate this ruin, we should take the necessary actions.
I don’t see it as any different, as I said, from being diagnosed with a medical condition. A doctor says ‘if you don’t stop smoking, or lose weight, or whatever, you’ll be very ill’ - you don’t have to do anything - or feel any guilt - you just choose between following the medical advice, or getting very ill.
Interesting study:
People who live in places where there are high levels of the atmospheric pollutant nitrogen dioxide had higher chances of ending up in intensive care units (ICUs) or of needing mechanical ventilation after they had caught Covid. Nitrogen dioxide is released into the atmosphere when fossil fuels are burned.
Its an opinion mr cox .
What is an opinion? I’m not sure where ‘opinion’ comes into it.
Your first post is opinion
I’m still a bit lost Flocreen, even after looking back to the first post - can you say a bit more about what aspects you think are opinions? Do you think climate science is no more than opinion, or that whether technological fixes will solve all the problems is a matter of opinion, or that whether we need to change our lifestyles and economies is a matter of opinion?
Personally, I’m not actually much interested in opinions - it’s why people hold them that’s interesting and important - how sound are the arguments and evidence behind beliefs.
The original post was about red meat eating and diet .Your post for me is all about climate which depending on who you read and/or listen to defines what you believe on climate ,I don’t believe either side because the world being billions of years old has gone through natural change in clamate before and data 2-300 years old is short term in comparison.
Yes it is, as is the time humans have spent on the planet. We wonder why the dinosaurs died out and its seems climate change was the cause and so it will be for humans, a short lifespan in the planets long life.
Natural change, that’s the crux of it isn’t it it, natural change. But what we’re seeing is change directly imputable to a species of ape which has proliferated particularly egregiously in the past few centuries, so can we call it natural?
but is it ? not enough data to know, lots of computer modelling that may or maynot be right
Depends on how much data you need to alter your bias?
Well according to my pal Florence who is a heavy-duty scientist and has spent most of the past 20 years taking ‘carottes’ of Arctic ice and analysing the air in the bubbles it contains as well as sediments and what they have to show, yes they are right.
But why accept what she has to say eh she’s only spent a lifetime studying to find out.
Or yours
You know what there is no point in saying anything that doesn’t agree with the so called main stream .
Not true, unlike most I listen to speakers from both sides of an argument and have on this topic. The solar flares and orbits of the earth and moon have more pronounced effects on our weather. That said the pollution levels and other indicators are real. The core samples taken show the climatic changes and various levels of CO2 and other gases and the overwhelming trend is bad we are heading to a bad place. The earth will continue without humans and most fish for a starter but given sufficient time bacteria can grow a new inhabitant. We are after all trust a transport system for trillions of bacteria and by some random act produce a thought process.
