Climate/ecological breakdown

Indeed. The UN said today that there is “no credible pathway to 1.5C in place”.

“We had our chance to make incremental changes, but that time is over. Only a root-and-branch transformation of our economies and societies can save us from accelerating climate disaster."

Not the words of some fringe revolutionary extremists - but the United Nations.

An extract from the land with over a billion in population:

“ China has said its carbon dioxide emissions will continue to grow until they peak by 2030, but it has not set targets for reducing other greenhouse gases, such as methane, which it emits in amounts large enough to equal the total emissions of smaller nations.

Last year, China said it would stop building coal-burning power plants overseas. ”

Overseas, all very well and not a small number (84 in August 2022) but I wonder if China’s internal coal mining production cannot power down because of increasing demand from a modernising society might lead to unrest if they resent restrictions.

And then there’s the other largest producer of carbon emissions, the US. Tricky electorate there.

Looks to me like 2030 hasn’t a bat in hell’s chance. Radical social changes ahead and I truly hope the far right isn’t going to make it even harder for all humanity to survive.

This was posted by @vero quite some time ago but still rings true

I haven’t the heart to answer her question now

Its a bit of a click bait throw away kind of thing.
So Rishi isnt going to COP27. That must be because of the major hole the tories have put us in and he is so busy trying to sort it out. Is he sending the deputy or are they too much of an embarrassment?

AutoExpress: Scrap the UK’s ban on petrols and diesels, politicians told.

Surely the answer to the ‘billions’ of investment required to meet Euro7 is simple: don’t do it.
Why on earth is any manufacturer thinking of investing anything in fossil fuel engines nowadays?
How stupid do you have to be to get promoted to CEO of a car company?

To keep their coffers rolling in and their mates in the oil industry happy.
Beginning to wonder whats the point unless some tech actually saves me money as I dont have kids or grand kids maybe I should be as selfish as some others!

I do worry about how difficult life might become for my kids, etc - but I’m not sure it makes a huge difference. If you have the ability to grasp the science, and the imagination and empathy to understand how awful living through climate/ecological breakdown will be, then I think you’ll have similar feelings whether or not you have children.

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Yes unlike governments, I do have a conscience.

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Because of “pressing domestic commitments”? Surely he can delegate, and turn up himself at the COP27!

I said in a previous post some while ago that I thought it was too bloody late to do anything about climate change! I don’t like Rees Mogg but he said we should mitigate climate change, not try to prevent it, and that is the way it is looking to me.

It would appear that Sunak’s ERG puppetmasters have decided otherwise. He’s not going, though King Charles can (according to Thérèse Coffey this morning).

As Coffey is the minister for the environment and deputy dog, is she going? Or will the joke of a UK gov continue their own path into obscurity?

I’m pretty sure she said she was going.

Must be a free lunch and duty free fags and booze

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She can sell her surplus antibiotics as well.

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Quite. There is a far from erroneous assumption that ministers enjoy the perks of a good junket, regardless of the forum.

PM Sunak has some rather pressing issues to handle ASAP in UK and as a wealthy traveller on his own account probably sees no perk in the charms of COP at Sharm El-Sheikh. Imagine the hue and cry if he were going?! You can just hear the tabloid press baying because the PM would dare to chose the environmental meet instead of knuckling down to the very urgent difficulties at home.

I for one think this would be an excellent opportunity to send HRH. By quite some way the best informed on the subject. Well connected and with respect he could make a very important statement about the UK position in environmental concerns, just by attending, and without saying one word. If he could be persuaded to attend as a silent observer, SILENTLY, it may be a win all around.

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Why can’t they have the meeting on Teams or such, no need to fly etc…

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I agree completely Susannah, it demostrates what a complete dogs dinner has been made of our economy.

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Some evidence here that some governments at least are beginning to grasp the nettle:

The EU’s first-mover status might not last long, since parts of the U.S. such as California and New York are eyeing up their own 2035 clean car mandates, while other developed economies are now considering similar policies. Global electric car leader Norway, for example, will get there in 2025.

The new EU rules won’t affect older cars already on the road by 2035, but the overall ambition is to make sure that all vehicles inside the EU are zero emissions by 2050.

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