Covid boosters

I’m booked in for flu and Covid. I’ve never had any side effects from either - sore arm, headaches - nothing.

Following comments on SF I want a jab of ShingRix, as well.

Those who say that there’s no proof that any particular vax or treatment ‘works’ to prevent a disease are trying to ‘prove a negative’.

It reminds me of an American stating to American You Tuber, now based in UK who feels liberated from the risk of gun or knife crime in the US, that he, the YT’er, has gained nothing because he, the American in the US, has never been shot or knifed.

Not yet.

Living in London I often walked across busy roads without using a ped’n crossing. I was never knocked down. Does that prove that ped’n crossings don’t save death/injury?

It’s kinda like that with vax.

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Have you come across Jean-Marc Sabatier?

Lovely knives :joy:

It’s nothing to worry about. My wife has been taking it for years with no side effects.

Well I saw the endocrinologist yesterday and she said that as my case was marginal I can try a natural medication called ‘Nathyroid’ for three months to see if it strengthens my thyroid performance.

I admit that she didn’t seem to have great faith in the product but agreed that it does work for some people so hopefully I’ll get lucky. I’m not overly worried about taking Levothyroxine for the rest of my life but if there is another solution I’m happy to try that before shoving chemicals down my throat every day for the rest of my life. Just my opinion and my choice.

I’ll update after the next blood test in January in case it helps anyone.

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The third covid vaccine was diffeent to the others, for adults in France.

The first two in France were Pfizer. The third was Johnson & Johnson. Pfizer was allowed only for children? or at least, only for the young, for the third vaccine. The rest of us were to be offered only the Johnson& Johnson. Like me, ISTR also for at least @Shiba on here, the vaccine “felt” wrong and some effects that occurred repeated later.

Worrying as covid had minimal effect on children.

Was that regional? In the Aude OH and I have only ever had Pfizer.

No idea.

I think there was a special case to get the Pfizer as an adult if your doctor said. Or it may have been that in such places there were enough supplies of the Pfizer left. Remember it came frozen. I saw this all later, of course. But had to have the vaccine a third time even though no real reason (my lifestyle did not expose me.) Because due to no dentists here I had to travel to the UK to see my old dentist. Covid certificate required for travel otherwise I wouldn’t have had it.

However it looks like the covid vaccine might have helped a very useful member of the UK forum I’ve haunted for years. He developed a neuralgia-type symptom in fsce/head/neck area as soon as he had a recent covid vacc. 4 doctors said not MS not a tumour. MRI scan revealed a 2 or 3cm benign tumour in his brain that at age 62, the doctors who’ve just taken it out said had probably grown 1mm a year over 20-30 years. Lost his hearing in one ear permanently due to the necessary operation but is otherwise recovering balance and mobility and from the shock such an operation gives to the body.

So covid or its vaccines may turn out to be the rustle in the undergrowth that reveals a hidden bear.

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If anyone us interested (and I appreciate you may not be) my first vaccination was Astra Zeneca followed by 2 x Pfizer. No obvious symptoms with any of them other than the expected arm ache.

Whereas the Astra Zeneca jabs for me put me in bed for several days feeling absolutely terrible. Thankfully now pulled from the market after several serious incidents.

A genomacist I follow said the UK released a good amount of data which showed some pretty bad findings after the 1st jab which at the time was probably AZ. Lower issues after the second and 3rd and subsequent jabs less and less issues, when compared to un jabbed people.

Nope, mine were Moderna. Only third was Pfizer.

Sounds like maybe there were regional differences then.

Thats right, we had Pfizer in Brittany both times and the third one was Moderna as they said the first one was being kept for children. My sister refused the AZ one in the UK as she was unsettled about it’s very fast development. As I said before, my son has suffered this spleen problem since the beg of 2024 and the specialist did not rule out the covid jab as being behind it since more people were showing strange problems.

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She’ll be able to supply you with the clinical trail evidence to support that book doubt.

Oh, no, she won’t - because there isn’t any.

Ok I’m really confused here. You are prepared to take a product containing multiple vitamins and non specified plant extracts because they aren’t (presumably in your view) chemicals but feel that taking a preparation consisting of a pure, quality controlled amount of natural (ok, nearly) thyroid hormone because it is.

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Exactly! People will buy stuff online on the anecdotal recommendation of someone who’s often wholly unqualified to give any form of medical advice, whilst rejecting products that have been subject to incredibly high standards of scrutiny. My SiL is a senior research pharmacist for Johnson & Johnson whose role is to rigorously scrutinise and re-examine the methodologies and apparent outcomes of their drug trials.

If only for fear of possible subsequent law-suits, the bar is set very high.

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Whilst accepting of the gold standard the cost of arranging RCT’s runs into huge amounts from pilot trials through to very large international trials. Where a product won’t ever earn a company a large sum the trial is never going to take place which leads to a Gulf of possibly good treatments. It’s where I see the charities stepping in to run at least pilot tests for some outlying products. Fembendazole being a prime candidate, there are some trials taking place at last but driven by folk who are risking themselves, often having been written off by mainstream medicine. Some self administered cases have extended life beyond expectations.

Mary Shomon’s blog has come up with some good stuff sometimes over time. She was ahead of mainstream UK in pointing out that for many, T3 matters more than T4 when looking at test results, whilst around T3 still need to be cautious for some people who might have other conditions. The pages of her site are incredibly commercial now, so there’s more wading through to get to the nuggets but they wiĺl be there.

Will be interesting to see if you escape any further action in January.

Even if that’s the case, if they’re not a sufficiently large control group, without the proper testing regime and protocols etc, no company can release a drug on such a comparatively flimsy basis.

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For your information the endocrinologist gave me an ordonnance for the stuff to buy at the pharmacy so I am following professional, clinical advice. I didn’t just shop around on the internet. I have already said that if does not reduce my TSH3 levels she will no doubt then give me an ordonnance for one of the more widely used pharma drugs.

My body.. my choice…thank you.