I haven’t but I’m responding to the current situation, the problems that people are experiencing in 2020.
Same problems… 
No they are not. There are very specific problems this year.
Encouraging people to use paper forms because you can get away with it is not helping the situation.
I would love to know why people are afraid of declaring online. It is so straightforward these days I can’t understand people who won’t even look at it before rejecting it out of hand.
There were specific problems last year, makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. Some people prefer to use the paper forms, it’s no big deal. I’ll be doing ours online and probably still cock it up!
If we moved to France permanently in March 2019 - is this year our first declaration?
HOW TO DECLARE YOUR TAX ONLINE.pdf (3.6 MB) HELP TAX FORM 2020.pdf (133.5 KB)
Also posted in Latest Topics of Interest France thread.
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Yes it will be.
They are excellent Graham, thank you.
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@graham - thank you for posting those two very informative and easy to follow links, which I’ve passed on to several of my friends who are reluctant to file their taxes online. They’ve got absolutely no excuse now!
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Just come off the phone with the Tax Office
Box 8TK does not exist on 2042K:
At the bottom of page 2 onthe 2042K form you are completing… there is a box for more information… marked “information”. Pension figure from 2047K should be put there, referencing that it comes from “2047K” .
Bank Accounts held outside of France:
These must be declared every year, regardless of no-change from last year… (drat)
Paper Declarants can write their full bank information on blank sheet of paper and send in with Declaration Forms…
Bank Name; Sort-code; bank Address; Name(s) of account holder (s); account number; type of account (cheque or savings)
Selling second home in UK… for French residents during last year:
Over 30 years… nothing to declare for CGT…BUT… where is the money now? (ie investments, bank, etc…)
Be sure to inform Tax Office of Bank A’cs etc etc… interest received… etc.
Everyone: 2OP
Last year caused such a furor that the computer will automatically ask you if you want to take advantage of 20P…
For Paper Declarants with any sort of investment income etc… 20P is a decision they make for themselves… NOT ticking the box means any such income will be charged at flat high-rate… so watch out.
The Tax lady assured me that it is not only foreigners who have problems/difficulties with Declarations on line. Being handy with Facebook etc does not necessarily mean one is OK with the Tax Online system. Paper is still OK for those who need it.
best of luck…
Many people are stressed by filling in tax forms. The online forms work in a very similar way to the paper forms but are streamlined to meet an individual’s needs. The same information goes into the same boxes and is automatically updated to the correct place on the 2042 or 2042C or whatever.
Another huge advantage, as highlighted by a Stella’s comments is that online there is no need to re-do overseas bank account information. The accounts you declared last year are there already. If you need to add or remove an account that’s very straightforward too.
actually on-line as well as offline… you do have to tell them about your foreign bank accounts… 3916
the lady was quite insistent…
but paper folk who cannot/do not want to download 3916… can do so freehand, as I have described…
I don’t understand your first sentence. I was just highlighting that the online system makes reporting overseas bank accounts straightforward.
The French government wants as many people to complete online forms and I find it annoying when people encourage others to exploit the loopholes in the system.
It’s clear that we are not understanding each other…
I intend to let the matter go… I have spoken with the Tax Office and passed on their comments.
You have made your point (frequently). Maybe, for some people, it’s just a matter of choice.
How on earth is doing a paper return exploiting a loophole. The government have given us a choice so no loopholing there. Some of us prefer paper and are confused by online form filling others do not have a computer - We do a paper return and will continue to do so as we have done for over 20 years.
Mind you l like the idea of being accused of exploting a tax loophole - sounds very risque:blush:
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I just wonder what will happen when the dinosaurs who resist change are brought to heel by the Govt?
Maybe they will require people to sign on their honour that they don’t have a computer (with appropriate penalties for lying of course) and will charge a fee for paper processing (or require them to use an accountant on their behalf which will cost them). And don’t think for one minute they won’t know; as @Stella pointed out (at the same time as I did in another thread) we both received text messages from the French Govt advising us about the covid-19 rules. Neither of us had ever given our numbers to the fisc - but they knew!
French dinosaurs will have an element of protection of course as their income will probably remain unchanged year on year (which the French Govt seem to acknowledge by suspending the need for a tax return) but etrangers tax on income from outside of France which varies according to the exchange rate will be required to report on-line.
It saves the fisc a considerable amount of money avoiding the paper chase so, as I see it, they will enforce the on-line declarations after all, the present Govt have done their part in reducing the fiscal take (TF et al) as they promised so why not meet the individual obligations?
IIRC they already do this for business income/TVA reporting.
Their country, their rules!
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Brilliant Graham, thanks. I didn’t realise there was a separate category for giving a donation to Notre Dame!
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And IIRC it will reduce your tax bill to boot (if you have to pay)!
Realistically, and without making any jokes about dinosaurs becoming extinct, the numbers of people not doing it online must be getting smaller and smaller every year so I should imagine this will happen pretty quickly. No one younger than me (and I am no spring chicken!) would think of not doing stuff digitally so the paper only brigade must be a small minority now.
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