EES - someday my prints will be done

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More delay likely.

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Bit annoying that it’s all still “will they won’t they” this close to the current date for starting.

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Yes - but at least they’re consistent - they’ve been “Will they, won’t they?” throughout!!

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I suppose … :slight_smile:

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That really shouldn’t be funny but it did make me chuckle.

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They have been infected with Johnson’s Syndrome aka Mad Blond Disease, having seen how successfully the UK Government handled the introduction of customs and veterinary checks on incoming goods. :smiley:

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Is that a mad cow? No just Margaret

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Surely that should be

Is that a mad cow? No just Liz, trying to outdo a lettuce again.

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Anyone taking bets on further delay?

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Ha, same old tories. I think the mad cow joke is particularly resonant with Thatcher and her deregulation of the UK food industry. I think blame can be laid directly at her door, though of course she and Major denied all.

Firstly not only did they allow bone meal to be used in the first place, they allowed it to be processed at lower temperatures.

1981: Government promulgates the Diseases of Animals (Pro­ tein Processing) order of 1981, which sets out minimal rules for allowing waste animal parts to be fed to cattle. Three cabinet min­isters who sign this document are: Peter Walker, minister of agri­ culture, fisheries, and food; George Younger, the Scottish secre­tary; and Nicholas Edwards, the Welsh secretary. This ratifies the continuation of infective animal by-product going into the feed chain.

1985: The U.K. processing modes for rendering animal by­ products are drastically changed to lower pressures and temper­atures; continental rendering requirements remain far higher. In the U.K., animal product is rendered at temperatures as low as 80°C-low enough to kill salmonellae and some other microbes, but not near to conditions necessary to deactivate sheep scrapie scraps, and any similar infective wastes. At the same time, chem­ ical solvents to clean the processing machines of the fat are phased out of use.

Expert opinion recommends conditions for treating animal feed be cooking for more than four hours at a minimum of 120°C.

Tainted animal feeds from UK are exported worldwide. U.K. feed cartel “experts” defend lowered temperatures and pressures in rendering animal wastes for livestock feed on grounds including: 1) saves fuel; 2) preserves nutrient-content and appetizing character; 3) provides cheap protein substitute for higher-cost corn, soybeans, and other livestock feed ingredi­ents. Prominent cartel-backed centers for promoting “alternative” feeds and substances, include University of Nottingham (Professor Cole); and University of Illinois (Champaign-Urbana; Prof. Dave Baker).

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1996/eirv23n26-19960621/eirv23n26-19960621_028-how_thatcherism_led_to_bse.pdf

Secondly they covered it up for years. This guardian article following the Philips report makes an interesting reminder read

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Indeed yes, but there’s more than one mad cow in the Tory party :slight_smile:

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Shout out to Eggwina Curry, at least she sorted out egg production in the UK and awareness of salmonella which egg producers seemed to think was ok.

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She sorted John Major out as well :wink:

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:joy: now now

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She definitely offered him the chance to fertilise her eggs

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Her daughter attended a school that our childrens school often played hockey and rugby against.
She was a bit of a wild card apparently!

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One so far overlooked consequence is that many SFers now resident in France, who were UK residents in the Eighties or Nineties are not allowed to be blood donors in France.

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Yes, I seem to remember something like that. Was it suspended during Covid? I guess not, if the restriction is still in place. Re-reading around the topic, I saw on wikipedia that it’s the same in Germany - France wasn’t mentioned (for blood).

In fact France didn’t seem to get a very good mention - it seems they didn’t really implement the EU rules. I think the last BSE case was in 2016 or 17.

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Nevertheless it is the case.

With many Wikip entries, the info you get is very dependent on the nationality of the contributor.

That’s one of several reasons why academics (like myself) consider it merely a convenient, rather than a wholly reliable source of info.

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Not strictly EES but maybe of interest except to those without smart phones.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/08/a-passport-on-your-smartphone-eu-pledges-faster-smoother-border-checks-by-2030