EU Citizen Or Still Uk Citizen which one am I

Ha, love it! This is an apposite moment to recount a discussion I was part of - an Irish lady, part of the group, pointed out, paraphrase

“when we Irish were in London in the 60’s, it was ‘no blacks, no Irish’. Now the English are lining up to get our passports.”

I thought she nailed it.

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And why not, I’m not a holier-than-thou rabbit , nor a caster of the first stone :slightly_smiling_face: But the people doing it just need to be honest with themselves. It’s a shabby thing to do given the price that was paid for independence :thinking: It’s akin to disrespecting the poppy.

I totally accept that people may not understand that, I had to be “educated” when I first moved to Ireland. You can imagine that with my south London accent that was and interesting period of my schooling :roll_eyes:

Stop digging Tim :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Four passports? What authenticity :joy:

“your intellectual prowess on display”

I think descending into ad hominem is as good a way of capitulating as any.

Enough already, please.

There are enough wrangles in the world without adding more.

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The state of the World is not a reason to not stand up for what you believe in Jane. In fact, IMO, the current state of the World is because not enough people have stood up for what they believe in.

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I called nobody a fraud. Tim. I was very careful with my language. I described a behaviour and expressed my views on it. If you chose apply that behaviour to yourself sobeit. That’s your problem.

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Glass houses, surely?

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anyone for Pease Pudding :wink:

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Steady on there, that’s uncalled for.

Signed,

An older person.

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I did warn you …

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And saveloys? :wink:

A recipe at this conjecture would be apposite

This one’s excellent.

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:+1: sounds nice

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Thanks John. I’d missed Tim having a swipe at my age.

I’m interested by your reaction, @Roger_Lapin . You seem plus irlandais que le Taoiseach!

I investigated the possibility of an Irish passport and see no moral aspect to it at all. (Had adoption records not been destroyed, I might have succeeded, too.) I don’t see the Irish government suggesting anything different. In fact, they seem quite keen on people applying for citizenship: Citizenship | Department Of Foreign Affairs and Trade | Ireland.ie | Ireland.ie

Although I’m less keen on Sudanese people passing through France and Ireland in order to enter the UK! That seems to me much more like taking liberties.

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Nice dog whistle.

Why is it always “dog whistle” when you find criticism uncomfortab;e, but legitimate comment when it’s done by someone who identifies as left-wing?

Oh wait, I get it :wink:

I have no further interest in “debating” with you. As I said previously, you don’t debate honestly and you’re now showing your true colours, so I’m out.