Some striking polling on the views of EU Europeans and Brits towards each other, timed to appear ahead of the 10th anniversary of Brexit on Tuesday 23.
Two-thirds of EU citizens back UK rejoining bloc, survey finds Two-thirds of EU citizens back UK rejoining bloc, survey finds | Brexit | The Guardian
The full report for those interested
Fingers crossed,we get back in the EU ASAP,before the next GE,just in case a certain person gets in to power.
We won’t and the prospect of a “certain person” getting into power should give the EU pause for thought before letting us back in - the last thing they need is the UK as a hokey-cokey member depending on who is in N° 10.
Also, done properly a referendum to rejoin would need a 60+% majority. When faced with an actual vote people might not respond as favourably as in an opinion poll. Especially if the price of rejoining would be adoption of the €
In fact I’d think twice about voting “Re-join” if that were the price.
What i meant really is get back in ASAP to thwart certain people from getting their way.i am sure the EU are not stupid enough to let the UK back in without certain conditions,i.e. sign a deal whereby you can,t just decide to leave again whenever it suits you or when a certain person may get in to power and want to leave again.Joining the Euro could well be another condition.
Surely if “a certain person” is voted in by the majority of the electorate, then the majority of the electorate agree with the “certain person’s”policies regarding membership of the EU. Isn’t that what democracy is all about?
BTW I do not for one second believe that this “certain person“ Nigel Farage will ever be PM. His support is a boisterous minority. A General Election is most likely to return a Conservative government if people are truly fed up with Labour.
Of all that is possible a Tory government, right now, is fantasy.
As I said in another post the result in Makerfield is not actually good news for Labour, even though Burnham won the seat comfortably.
Unfortunately, as @JohnH and @Ancient_Mariner pointed out the public don’t know what they want, just that they don’t want the status quo. It is very fertile groud for Farage’s simplistic message that the reason Brits are dissatisfied is “immigrants” and enough may well believe him that Reform win in 2029. Or before as there are already calls for a GE if Labour swap horses mid race.
Labour would be justified in refusing to call an early GE. From memory, Truss and Sunak didn’t.
It’s tricky - the way that British politics works the party leader is “just another” MP, elected by their local constituency and what matters is the party manifesto which can be delivered by any individual leader. The number of people who understand this is small, and many that do point out that those who do not are voting viscerally for the personality of the leader first and party second. It could all be dealt with by electoral reform but there has never been that much of an appetite to change the system when it comes down to it (after all the present system works well for the victor - it’s only the losers that would gain from a change).
So Starmer (or Burnham) would not only be justified in not calling for a GE, the system does not even require him to give it a moment’s thought.
I have a serious issue with the party leader being elected by the party membership when that party leader will be PM. Since the expectation is that the PM must have the confidence of parliament, in my view the PM should be selected by the party MPs.
It is of course also what every other party is desperate for which is why there should be no election until the last possible moment for Labour. Whoever is in charge is going to need every last second to turn around the debacle of the last couple of years (if they even want to), and as with the last GE they would be heavily relying on all the other parties imploding as much as turning their own ship around.
There’s already some minor shoots of hope that Reform are losing momentum, Labour need to throw an obscene amount of money at comms both pushing their messaging which should be wholesale nicked from the US democratic socialists, or, dare I say, Corbyn Labour, while, as @Roger_Lapin said absolutely eviscerating Reform and Reform light (the tories) at every turn in an incredibly loud way. Have they got the money to do that? I don’t think so but perhaps they could get donors to dig deep. I think if they can there’s a chance they could form the next government either with a hair thin majority or with support from the other left parties.
But it’s going to take until August 15th 2029 to have any hope of that, Macron showed the world why smugly calling an early election is never a good idea.
No disagreement from me on that one.
I hope you are right,but recent polls and recent by-election results would suggest that you are way off the mark.The Conservatives came behind parties like Reform and Restore Britain and only got 900 more votes than Count Binface at the Makerfield by-election.
It was a by-election though and there was an agenda to keep Reform out, so it’s thought that a lot of Tory, Lib Dem and Green voters lent their votes to Labour.
It’s possible - the Lib Dem and Green vote collapsed to almost nothing so there could have been tactical voting there plus a general uplift in turnout.
I don’t see many Tories lending their support though - although the Tory vote also collapsed, Restore got about the same as the Tories used to and the overall RW vote was about in line with the increased turnout.
Nowt wrong with the Euro mate. A godsend when you are like me and travel around Europe a lot. No one wants to know about the pound anyway. It has always been the US Dollar.
I am fed up with people referring to it as the Makerfield by election .it is the Ashton in Makerfield by election. Just saying.
Ditto, but the shorthand is widely understood and it’s a pain to type Ashton-in-Makerfield all the time 
That’s interesting. Out of curiosity, for you would this be a “head” decision or “heart” one, or a blend of the two on the £? In other words do you have (perhaps?) an emotional attachment to the £, or believe its economic performance justifies its ongoing usage by the UK etc? I’m fairly regularly struck by a seemingly instinctive rejection of the idea of using the € in the UK by.some people living in the UK (not suggesting you), which I probably shared at the time when living there!
Head. Adopting the € significantly reduces a country’s ability to manage or refactor its debt.
Look at the issues Greece had.
It doesn’t matter. Suffer the pain! Get it right!
