Yes, I wasn’t trying to make a point, just passing on what I had just been shown. And also yes, a hybrid which presumably is petrol not diesel, even more inflammable. I think the man mentioned that the fuel tank caught fire.
Mind you, a big difference in the Norwegian and Swedish figures though. 
You have to dicount the two people recently found in a burned out hire car as that was foul play.
As the guy in the video said, this is a bid deal. But for Volvo (and Polestar) not EVs or hybrids in general. Poor man, poor little girl and grandmum, terrifying. I hope he sues their bottom off.
Another dodgy Chinese EV manufacturer? We saw another of their products, a Lotus, self destruct above.
Yes, they’re much, much more rare but diesel hybrids do exist - I have one 
Its ok, being American he can now sue the motor manufactuer so will be well rewarded for his stupidity
Trump voter no doubt.
Can’t fix stupid, as they say.
Safety features can be a double edged sword. I went to pull forward to let a passenger in yesterday because I had parked too close to tree. Much to my embarrassment the car would not budge Then the car shot forward - - - - when I closed the door.
News of LFP battery manufacture.
https://www.electrive.com/2024/07/26/lges-to-establish-factory-for-lfp-batteries-for-europe/
The cost per mile running the average EV is less than half that of ICEs. The range of EVs increases every year.
Somewhat context free claim and graph.
Is the graph supposed to be best case or average? What data did it use? When was it drawn (so we can see what might have been based on data and what was forecast). The start of the graph from 2010 to 2016 seems suspiciously straight, as though there were only points for thopse two years.
If it’s supposed to be best case then it’s probably already out of date with the likes of the Mercedes EQS having a 118kWh battery and range of 500 miles (there are a few others on the market which have > 400 mile ranges, though they are all commensurately expensive).
As to ownership - is that for high users mainly charging on the public network, or users mostly charging at home. What country? Is depreciation factored in (the biggest cost for most motorists), what about maintenance (cheaper than ICE) and insurance (more expensive)?
Wow what a lot of questions about a rather simple post! Nevertheless I will do my best to answer them rather than duck the issue
Do you remember what it was like to go into a French bar before the smoking ban was introduced? Most people predicted that the ban would be completely ignored. The difference now, having clean air to breath is incredible but I am certain no one wants to go back to the old, unhealthy, smoke laden ways.
I get a similar experience now when I go into a multi storey car park. I am surrounded by machines spewing out noxious fumes oblivious to health risks. Surely the writing is on the wall for ICEs?
Then we have the Tour de France where riders are taking carbon monoxide to increase performance, are we doing it all wrong and should we spew out more if it increases performance?
I do and it is great, I even avoid cigarette smokers outdoors now as well, but sadly your brave new world has come too late for me, there is no way that I could afford such luxury.
The TdF competitors may well take comfort briefly, while the CO2 kills off the planet but I suspect the other emissions might cancel out any perceived benefits contributing to bronchitis, asthma, lung cancer, heart attacks, strokes, and other cardiovascular problems.
Even if you are on your last car David and have no plans for a new one, you could still cheer from the sidelines and protest what ICEs are doing to your body.
'Till I get run over by something I can’t hear coming. 
Here are just a few scenes that need not be repeated once we are free of the evil oil.
Or battery production, for balance.
FWIW I don’t think posting emotive images helps the debate all that much.
Was that the Exxon Valdiz BTW?
That’s not what I meant by cheering from the sidelines David.
The noise produced by ICEs is dangerous to our health; E.g. >>>
https://forcetechnology.com/en/articles/traffic-noise-dangerous-health-what-to-do-about-it
Why not use your lifetime of professional driving experience to step onto a road safely
I disagree Billy. A picture paints a thousand words. Your pictures of mines are for extracting minerals for old style batteries. Battery technology is making rapid progress. For example potassium/ion batteries. Potassium is available everywhere and can be extracted from deep mines such as Boulby Mine in Yorkshire.
The tanker surrounded by crude oil was the Torrey Canyon. I remember it well as I was in Cornwall at the time and saw the devastation it caused. In my opinion, anything that can stop that happening again is to be welcomed. But everyone is welcome to their own opinion.
