It will continue to report back as it does in the UK, although one would not expect to be charged for use on non-UK roads.
As for incentivising, I think that EVs are now seen as an involuntary inevitable, and in a decade there will be relatively few alternatives. Once a majority are in their EVs it will be safe for a government to wind up the taxation to drive ICE users off the road.
Wow, I understand why they’ve done it but I’m kinda surprised that they’ve done it.
Yes badger, maybe I was bit harsh and my “sample” was very small compared to yours. However I did end up in some strange places, a Hi-de-Hi! campsite charger for example (I wish I’d taken a photo). I’ve been up a mountain here in the R5, in the snow with the battery dwindling under my eyes but still felt better than I did on the backroads of North England. I suppose it’s all in the mind.
When I stated that UK had the worst network I had, of course, forgotten that Ireland has a far worse network. The get the wooden spoon 
I’m only half surprised but IMO it would have been more logical to slap a mileage charge on all vehicles as that would increase the duty paid by ICE vehicles & thus further incentivise their demise. Currently the EV charge will act as a small disincentive to their uptake even though they will still remain cheaper to run unless all your charging is done at expensive rapid chargers.
It’s disincentivising me. 
Mind you I’ve been waiting for the honeymoon period to be over as far as EVs and tax is concerned for some time.
Me too. With our move back to the UK getting closer we will be selling our French wheels and buying a new set of UK wheels.
I fancy the Citreon C3 Aircross, with the ICE version coming in a 3 grand less than the EV equivalent.
Given that a new car should see me through the rest of my driving days, I won’t be driving an EV out of the showroom.
No Billy, it is totally outragious.
Ford tried to charge people a subscription for features in their cars. Cars people had already paid for the features in! They seem to have backed off from that, which is good because the Ford EV range seems to be excellent, we hired one a couple of years ago, they don’t need controversial stuff holding them back.
My own personal experience of this “integration” is that BMW are sort of trying the same, some of the options need a subscription after three years. Some are valid maybe, like maps currency, some like dash cam recording (having paid for the dash cam option already) are not.
All in all I’m not too cross with BMW, but despite loving the R5, I am totally pissed off with Renault’s abdication to Google for navigation and other features. Luckily we use Apple Carplay and cut Google out of the equation.
What Renault has done is pure stupidity. It reminds me of the old days when hardware manufactures didn’t see the future was in software not the hardware. I watched Digital Equipment Corp., a pioneer and a company I much admired, the manufacturer of some of the best midrange computers ever self immolate and go broke because the leader, Ken Olsen, didn’t see the writing on the wall. A tragedy. I benefited because we hired some excellent ex DEC people. Notably the best HR Director I ever worked with.
I can see the day, and It may not be too far away, when people choose a new car based on the “user interface” more than the badge on the grill. Changing car manufacturer will be like moving from Windows to MacOS, just too much hassle.
What you say is fundamentally correct but you’re not 100% on the guilty parties. Apple don’t sell data and they are the largest smartphone maker in the World. I don’t think Microsoft, who I have never been a fan of, sell data, they don’t need to. They may use it for their own purposes but that’s a different matter.
Basically the rule is “if the product is free, you are the product”.
That’s not to say other shitty software, services and hardware companies don’t misuse your data, they do but that’s a “buyer beware” issue. If you download it and use it 
I have no suspicions that BMW sell my data, that’s not their business and GDPR will prevent them. I don’t think Renault sell my data, but they have done a deal with Google, probably superficially beneficial for Renault as they don’t have to develop their own UI, which means Google can harvest Renault owners data. That was very stupid.
No way 
GDPR. Though after Brexit that might try. Any manufacture worth its salt will tell them to piss off. Remember the UK Government needs auto manufacturers more than auto manufactures need the UK Government.
Windows doesn’t mean that much to MS anymore Mik. They are a Cloud and subscription company now. The operating system is an enabler to those core businesses. They are just too mean to give the OS away for free, like Apple does
It would cause huge anger to tax ICE vehicles per mile on top of all they cost in tax already. There’s significant resentment from some toward the apparent government subsidisation of EVs compared to other vehicles, and would possibly increase the antipathy towards EV owners plus a deeply unpopular Labour government, rather than possibly being seen as redressing the balance a little and making vehicle taxation a bit fairer, as this might be.
Except that governments are, under certain circumstances, automatically granted exemption to GDPR. Notably for crime prevention and collection of taxes and duties.
The UK government is not exempt from adhering to the Data Protection Act, so they have to store it safely once they’ve slurped it up… But sadly you can’t, as a data subject, object to HMRC processing your data nor invoke your right to be forgotten 
Bugger, foiled again.
No worries. Just make some contacts within the Touring Car racing clan who will happily chop out half the onboard electronics and reprogram the rest. You’ll end up with a car that won’t be sending any data to anyone. Turning off the odometer function —- no problem.
Bonus ecologique next year 5700 EUR for EV
Had no time to check if it’s gone back tooeing second hand as weĺl or just new
Unsure if the recent extra1000 EUR from europe for european made battrery will continue also
Interesting. Was it 4200 € this year? That’s quite a jump if so.
My ‘dirty diesel’ (or perhaps that should be ‘slightly soiled’ as it’s a diesel hybrid) is getting on a bit and now costs an uncomfortable amount each year in repairs. I fear I shall be looking to replace her shortly.
I’d be very keen to switch to an EV. Although the place we’re in the process of buying is a town house with a non-dedicated parking space in front, so not sure what options (if any) would be available to us regarding home charging.
It’s been 7000 eur in the past for some income levels. Then 6000 I think. Then sudden drop to 4000 or so, I think, when govt funds available became short . Probably due to the extra French & European Car Industry Support (FECIS) program, otherwise known as Social Leasing.
income restrictions on the Bonus Ecologique at the 4000 / 4200 level excluded about half of households that needed car to work and excluded only on income ( these are all my vague perceptions and quick looks as these changed).
Then this year the govt had the wheeze of making the energy companies pay - it sounded something like we’re gonna up this green tax you pay and give it a new name but basically you will finance the Bonus Ecologique cos we don’t want to. So taxed energy companies no choice. But nicely greenwashed.
I like that
I’d forgotten about the subsidies! Although if only off new car price it won’t help me! Let me know if you find out more JKaren 
I was talking with our R&D director this morning about a trip across to Germany in his Enyaq. He said Germany was really awkward for charging stations, having to seek them out, but France, Belgium and Holland were great, as was the UK. He had been surprised at the lack of German facilities (he is German too).
That’s not true. I’ve had no problems in Germany. In fact it’s excellent. I guess maybe it’s his limited experience of charging in Europe that’s leading him to that mistaken opinion.
No more than one swallow doesn’t make a spring, one trip doesn’t make an informed opinion. As I happily conceded to @Badger a couple of days ago
