Not at all David. It was reasonable to comment on what appeared to be a pretty basic fault in the numbers that had been presented. That’s all JB did and if he hadn’t brought it up I might have got round to commenting the same.
Love the enthusiasm but even if I am already converted to a cause I’ll point out what seem to be obvious flaws in arguments particularly if it"s numbers.
I see it as clutching at straws, trying to score points by pointing at the obvious. Boris Johnson was like that and I disliked his way of doing things as well.
Common sense would imply everyone knows how gas stations work…It was showing that EV points are around
Nah.
If you look at JohnBoy’s history you’ll see he has been a voice of reason on the topics he’s kindly given his time to comment on.
And I tend to be fairly analytical and sometimes challenging but I strive always to be fair.
And to put this to bed I am very pro EV (and diesel) but the figures as presented made no sense without taking what was pointed out by JB into account… for anyone that uses petrol.stations 
and/or knows of EV chargers possibility as fairly frequently reported, of being found not working.
At the risk of repeating myself, I was merely correcting what was presented as misleading headline grabbing fact. I am sorry it has provoked derogatory remarks towards me.
Of course an EV is an alternative to ICE but it isn’t a compulsory to own or drive one as those who do think it is.
As for suggesting my position in life is that of an uniformed pub bore I should not respond to your accusation but take a look around you.
As a teetotaller of 5 years and a non smoker of 45 years I think that if the world had taken the same lead the resulting effect of saving the planet would have been far more effective than simply changing one mode of transport for another.
Perhaps I should start a thread on the health benefits to the human body and the planet of avoiding such vices.
Finally thanks to those who have seen my post to correct a misleading quote as exactly that.
Drove into my local Tesco filling station last week 2 out of 6 petrol pumps out of action, extrapolate that in some meaningless click bait headline thats 33% of petrol pumps out of action!
As the number of chargers is continuing to grow month on month the odd failed not working one becomes irrelevant. The most important part is almost all of the time you would be carging from home, only those occasional longer journeys requires public chargers.
That didn’t last long and this thread has already lost its interest for me.
Ditto,
Oh dear, what a mess to wake up to! I really tried to creat a useful thread that was a helpful resource for EV drivers to benefit from. I did my best to explain this is in the OP
What I said in a later post was :-
“Since starting this thread I have been looking much more closely at apps and EV charging locations and come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no need to use an app to find a charging point.”
And that generates comment such as “At the risk of repeating myself, I was merely correcting what was presented as misleading headline”
I cannot understand why that may be a “headline grabbing to distort the facts”. I even quoted the source of the information I quoted.
:shakes head sadly and disappears into the sunset emoji:
I’ve done a quick poll amongst SFers to see who is for our against EVs. Would you believe it - it’s 48% vs 52%…! 
Good try, unfortunately the Luddites can’t help themselves.
PS - would it be wrong of me to point out that 1 of the 3 fossil fuel stations (Total, iirc) where I previously lived was only open certain hours of the day - closed at lunchtime and almost never open on a Sunday - as it was manned by a human being…? Whereas the EV charging stations were open 24/7 
As the number of chargers and indeed the larger charging hubs grows, It is still a good idea to report the new ones coming on line. There was a facebook group who reported on long term out of order ones in the UK and it seemed to come down to one main company, they took the Gov sponsorship to install then ran off into the sunset with the cheque. I believe another company took over some of their sites.
But this is France and getting the heads up on new services is useful. Early on you had to leave many motorways in order to charge, who’s bright idea that was? Now I see more hubs tacked on to some motorway service areas but I dont use the motorways that much.
Well may I suggest you start a thread and discuss it properly then?
Edit - on re-reading my comment Gareth, it sounded rather blunt. I did mean it as a positive suggestion to take the heat away from this thread.
Now where have I seen that 4% majority before.
Did it matter?
Exactly. I would have hoped that threads like this might help. However, it is interesting to reflect how many EVers charge at home. The United Kingdom has one of the highest reported shares of access to home charging, at 93% This might explain why there are rarely queues at charging stations.
Are you suggesting Brexiteers align with ICE drivers? Now that WOULD provoke an argument. 
Duly noted… all petrol heads are welcome to chew the fat over here.
Back on topic…
I bought (leased) a new Megane EV in November last year.
Chargemap - essentially my view is as others have said. I have it, and the app is useful especially for the information about the locality, but actually I haven’t used it to pay for a charge. Basically because their tariffs are higher than others.
Mobilize (Renault’s in house offering) same as Chargemap as far as I can see, except the map included in the My Renault app is less reliable and less complete. Tariffs seem identical to Chargemap.
Octopus Electroverse - my preferred option up to now. The map is fairly reliable and up to date, and typically their tariff is around 4c per KwH lower than the others - a worthwhile saving. HOWEVER - despite ordering the card in November, it still hasn’t arrived so I have to use the app to charge. All fine until I have no mobile network or it decides to play up. Their much vaunted customer service seem unable to do anything to help, so on occasion I have had to use Mobilize instead at extra cost.
Lidl - certainly where I’ve charge up, paying by debit card wasn’t available at the borne. Have to set up yet another account with bank details etc on the Lidl + app. Don’t mind, but it doesn’t save me anything compared to Electroverse so haven’t bothered.
I’ve also used IE Charge, less well known but a smaller French owned company who only put charge points in rural areas. Very good tariffs, currently 25c per KwH on offer but normally 30c, lower than Lidl. But stations few and far between at present, my nearest is16km away but if en route they are great value with up to 320KW charge available.
The local departmental providers have many bornes in surrounding villages. We’re in the 37, but only 5 miles from the 36 and the 86, all 3 departments have different providers, but only a max charge rate of 22kW and quite expensive - 48c in our village, 44c in the 86 and a nonsensical minimum fee of 10 Euros in the 36. Unsurprisingly they’re all usually available…wonder why?
Not yet done a really long journey (eg a UK visit) but all 3 cards/apps will function anywhere I’m likely to go. Just a question of the price really.
Interesting and useful observations Richard. I will take a closer look at Octopus. To be honest, I charge mostly at home so I am inclined to think that saving a few cents per KwH by having multiple cards is probably overkill.