EV Charging (please read first post in thread)

Yes, when I used Ionity chargers, for example, I just paid for it with my usual carte bleue.

The MObiVE chargers here in Nouvelle Aquitaine are supposed to do that too, but the one I tried recently in Royan wouldn’t work so required you to install an app on your phone and link your carte bleue in the app.

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I wonder if using your bank card is charged at a different rate to using an RFID account card etc. High time this stupidity was stopped or introduced for petrol and diesel users.

This topic is being discussed on the EV Buy or wait thread Peter,perhaps your post would be more benificial there.

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Indeed - happy for everyone to move to the “political thread with occasional humour”

Another vote for Chargemap…We lent our card to some UK based friends who turned up in France in their EV but hadn’t got a card. Judging from the real time updates Chargemap sent us, assuming it was us doing the charging, they travelled from Normandy to the South West and beyond, and only ever used charging stations flagged up as being Chargemap compatible. Starting out as Chargemap sceptics, it seems they were clearly completely won over by it’s ubiquity across French EV charging stations. It also made the post voyage reimbursement to us very easy as we simply took the totals off the app.

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Great feedback :+1:

Have any of you looked into the companies that developed EV charging apps and the apps, security of them, they have your personnel & bank details.

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Yes, Limoges airport.

They do a year’s pass for 720 euros.

The issue I’ve found with Leclerc is that there are at least 4 different systems I’ve seen used in the handful of stores I’ve visited locally. One is a free charger; plug in, press the ‘go’ button and it charges. One is a freshmile charger, since I have a freshmile card I just use that. One is another system that I forget the name of which I use my Chargemap card, and the 4th gives you an hour free charging if you use your Leclerc card or allows you to use a debit, credit, or RFID card. This is the 4 stores nearest to each other, not ones spread across the country, so it seems incredibly fragmented.

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Possibly because E.Leclerc stores can be independent stores operating under the E.Leclerc brand rather than directly operated by the E.Leclerc group? As such it could be that each store goes with whatever charger system pays off better for them.

I’d suggest you try the in car navigation. A phone app has no idea of your charge level or range wheres the in car system is integrated and will use both to recommend where and when to charge. Our i4’s in car system has been flawless in France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland and Ireland, though a bit dodgy in Spain, which I blame on the Spanish charger network. The R5’s Google based system is rubbish, I rely on my (many) apps. So it’s horses for courses, I’ve no experience of the ID3’s system but maybe Google reviews and give it a try.

I doubt it. There seem to be “vendor” specific cards and cards that support charging from multiple vendors. Some want a subscription and offer discounts and some don’t. You could end up subscribing to whole load of potentially overlapping cards if not careful.

That’s a bullshit, provocative post John. This is a thread for people interested in learning more about how and where to charge. Why don’t you start a “Filling stations I love” thread? and leave us alone🙂

I don’t think that’s normal Sukie. Unlike lead acid batteries. EV batteries discharge very slowly. We leave my wife’s hybrid for months and the high voltage battery never discharges and I left my i4 at 80% in December and she was still at 80% when I got back a week ago. Have yours checked out that something isn’t staying “on” and draining the battery :slightly_smiling_face:

The Xpeng looks interesting, but they are both appliances. Not cars as I feel about cars. They belong in the same category as fridges, ovens, hobs and dishwashers. If that’s what people want, fair enough, but I think they are a bit shit :slightly_smiling_face:

BTW, you wouldn’t believe the trouble I had getting our new dishwasher up and running a couple of weeks ago. I had to reboot it several times before it would download its new firmware connect to the App and start working. Its sister oven was much easier to get up and running.

Connectivity has gone mad, but I like it :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Very good point. There are so many Apps, cards, suppliers etc. I have no doubt there will be a major consolidation soon. I have no idea what the security of each of these apps/cards have so I have a dedicated credit card with a low limit that I use with all of them, If any of them get breeched than I’m still OK.

As an aside a hotel I’m booked into in Toulouse in March had their email breeched and I and started to get scam emails from Booking.Com. These bastards are getting more and more sophisticated so do protect your data.

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Merely delving beyond the headline to flag up the imbalance of the ‘bullshit’ statement made. Sorry if you feel it provocative just as I find ‘leave us alone’ is your way of saying ‘do one’
I will continue to read, comment and be educated to the world of EVs and how to charge them just in case one day I might be faced with driving one, never say never!

Come on John :joy: Let us delusional EVers play amongst ourselves without the ICE vs EV debate. I promise not to intrude in your Service stations I love thread or perhaps a why NOx and CO2 are good for you thread.

I will welcome your conversion the EV world as a modern prodigal son and put my card behind the bar of your choice (with a limit of course) when that happy day arrives :slightly_smiling_face:

BTW, I don’t know what “do one” means, but I suspect it’s a lot more rude interpretation than I intended, so rest assured it wasn’t that.

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Unfortunately, no, but not one for this thread.

I thought same as johnboy, and his post was imv perfectly reasoned and reasonable comment JohnS.

We understand that this thread is for EV proselytizers and it’s a great thread that has rapidly been filled by contributors with useful and encouraging information. But JohnBoy waa right to point out the elephant in the room that multiple pumps at each petrol station, and inoperability oft reported of EV charging points, appeared not to have been taken into account.

Why do you make it sound like a punishment? OK it’s a change from what you are used to but are you so set in your ways that you can accept that? Is it simply that you are not a believer in the fact that the human race needs to make changes to slow down the harm our lifestyles are doing to the planet’s delicate eco systems and cycles? A few years ago I was offered the opportunity to drive my cousin’s EV expecting it to be a boring experience but was amazed by the driving experience and luxury it offered. She lives north of Paris and commutes to Luxembourg where she works and has been doing that journey using electricity for several years now. He family use her car for their family motoring holiday’s not her husband’s smart Audi diesel work car so through them I know that although range anxiety may be a thing it’s not borne out in real life. If you are man enough to leave your principles behind and try an EV perhaps you will see what they are, a real alternative to having an ICE engined car. If you drive one and hate it, fine, I for one will take more notice if you’re anti EV posts. As it is your strange negativity when interacting with people who have real life experience using the vehicles you seem to be afraid of makes you sound a bit like an uninformed pub bore. Perhaps that’s your position in life? Me, I’d rather listened to informed facts that this thread was meant to share than the constant myths, rumours and inflexibility coming from your side.

Isn’t that a case of you liking what you want to hear even when it’s shared by the uninformed over the facts even though they are being spread by those with experience? Birds of a feather and all that? Me, I prefer to listen to those with experience who can offer help and reassurance to those who rely on myths and situations long past.

Damn you British are harsh. I guess a lot are stuck in their ways and not open to new things? Like why state the obvious as a point in your favor(favour?) when it is common sense a gas station would have more “stops”.