Guarantor agencies

I was a Realtor in the US, and I passed on a couple of clients to former colleagues after I moved here. My colleagues sold property to my clients, and I collected two referral fees. My understanding is that that was no problem; I did not work other than introducing the parties to each other. Hopefully it’s all good, since I declared it on my French taxes. I guess I’ll find out, right?

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Royalties are an article in the UK / France DTT. You can look it up to see in which country they’re taxed.

But the royalties refered to by Motherrobyn were generated in the US

True, but I was a resident of France when I wrote the emails. I have NO idea if it matters in the least - I’m not going to pretend to know the law that well. At any rate, I let my RE license expire, so it’ll never happen again.

@JaneJones neither of the consultants are American…

@DrSukie I secured two guarantors (Garantme & Smart Garant) and created the rental dossier, so I hope to follow in the footsteps of your success ! Did you find a private landlord or go through an agency ?

I would expect not to work illegally (too much agita !) but to pay taxes.

Anyway, I’ll see how it goes ! Thanks for the info.

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ok, so I unintentionally omitted the bit from one of the posts…apologies if this caused confusion.

“I recently moved to Lille on a long-stay visa, which does not permit me to work [for a French company]”

But once I am French-resident there will be no UK involvement if the royalties are coming from the US and Canada? I fill out a form each year for Adobe and Alamy so I don’t get taxed at source.

I would expect the royalties to be taxed in France along with my pension income - but what i don’t want to happen is to be told that such activity constitutes working and is not allowed on a retraité visa.

I used the app (for phones) Jinka, which works with both agencies and landlords. I worked directly with a landlord. I am the first international person he’s rented to; learning curve for both of us.

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I think what people are saying is that there is no such visa. You are either allowed to work or not. If you are resident in France, working & getting paid both you, and your employer should be making the necessary French social contributions. The qualification “[not] for a French company” does not exist.

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What people are saying is quite clear :rofl: :rofl:

@Porridge pointed out a mistake in one of my posts and I was simply acknowledging the the omission for clarity.

Hope that makes sense.

Ah, quite right! So US / Canada - France DTT’s then. Others have mentioned royalties are passive income, and I think so too. You previously did the work to earn the royalties - it was in the past :slight_smile:

Not really - you seem to be maintaining that you have a long stay visa which does not allow work except if it is “not for a French company”. It has been pointed out this sort of stipulation/exception does not exist.

If you are resident in France for tax purposes and do paid work while on French soil this is a) against the terms of your visa (OK, probably difficult to detect if, say, purely online) and b) attracts tax and social charges for you and your employer whether they are French or not.

France does not (yet) have a “digital nomad” visa (unless anyone knows different).

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Yes, that’s exactly what everyone has been saying and I’m quite clear on this POV.

Thanks !

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Just as long as you know :slight_smile:

It is not a POV it is a fact.

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Thank you kindly for your emphatic response :slightly_smiling_face:

But I am not a citizen or resident of Canada or the US so not sure why their DTTs would apply?

Currently the royalty income is declared and taxed only in the UK so I am guessing it would be just taxable in France post move?

But yes hopefully it would be treated as passive income not current “work”.

Anyway enough thread drift from me,…

We haven’t got onto food yet, have we?

Though if that is the country from which the income is from, it will be those rules which apply - and I recall some rules over who has taxing rights over US sourced income in France are different to the UK / France rules - so you could check? The US likes to hold onto its taxes, but maybe that’s for its citizens only? I’m thinking the likes of Madonna royalties - could be a bit contentious between states?

Anyway glad you’re now more chilled over your visa!