Has Anyone Performed a Heimlich Manoeuvre?

I had, twice, before last night. The first time was about 40 years ago and I had just read all about it for the first time in my Sunday Times while awaiting Sunday lunch. We were then in the middle of lunch when my young son started choking and coughing and was in very real distress, having only just finished the article I knew exactly what to do and, having fortunately not absorbed the warning about young children, I gave him the most violent hug from behind. The pea which, was lodged in his breathing tube, shot across the room and splattered a green mark on the wall opposite.

The 2nd time was years later and, after a petanque competition, again a Sunday we were all enjoying a pub lunch in the open air. A rather portly member of our team began to choke and turn a funny colour, his loud heavings for breath drew attention as he dropped to all fours in a vain attempt to shift the obstruction.

In a most unseemly manner I came to him from behind, straddling his haunches and locked my arms around his ample stomach. A mighty heave with all my strength was most satisfactory as a lump of meat shout out of his mouth with a mighty roar. He soon recovered but was in pain and we later found out that I had broken 2 of his ribs. :astonished_face:

And then to last night. I have mentioned elsewhere that I returned home after a very good evening of meeting and eating, but then it was bedtime. Last job is to take my 3 and a half pills with a glass of water. The first, and largest, pill went onto my tongue as usual but then continued not to my stomach but straight down my windpipe, and got stuck there. I managed to calm the panic and breath in through my nose but I couldn’t shift it. So I reached for old Heimlich, but let me tell you it doesn’t work on oneself, not enough leverage with the arms clasped to the stomach but starting from the shoulders, they need to be behind the body altogether. So all I could do was breath in through my nose and then roar out of my mouth. It still wouldn’t shift. Recently, my asthma, with me from a very young age, has been producing phlegm deeper and closer to my lungs and so I have a bottle of cough mixture designed for such things. Don’t ask me how it goes down one tube while breaking a blockage in another, but it does. So I rushed for the bottle and took a mighty swig, then breathed in carefully to the absolute max before dropping to all fours and letting out a mighty roar, one that a pride of lions would have been impressed with.

The pill gave up and dropped to the floor. :joy:

Just to demonstrate the body’s natural desire to stay alive, it produced excess amounts of phlegm, much more than usual, for an hour or so afterwards. So minor roars had to be employed for some time before I settled to sleep. And that is partly why Jules spent some time on my bed, his response always if he thinks I am poorly and he had already shown signs of distress during my struggle.

I am sorry if all the above has spoilt your Sunday mornings but if it saves a life one day, it’s worth it. :rofl:

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Crikey David that was a narrow squeak! Glad you are OK!

I have had the Heimlich performed on me a couple of times, but to no avail as my problem used to be food getting stuck in my gullet not in my windpipe (fortunately). Typically it happened when I was out for a meal and wasn’t paying attention and swallowed too big a piece of meat.

With my scenario there was no way of dislodging it mechanically, I just had to wait it out, although trying to swallow a fizzy drink such as Coke did help sometimes (apparently the bubbles stimulate the gullet to unclench).

When I had a piece of pork stuck for five hours some months ago I decided enough was enough and got medical help. I had a procedure at the Royal Surrey last November to widen my oesophagus (essentially they stretched it with balloons!) which was very successful, I now swallow with no problems.

Agree that knowing how to do Heimlich is a really good idea.

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So glad you are ok. Jules you mentioned was fitting. Also ok?

When we lived in the Creuse, I was helping a neighbour move a couple of big old heavy cast iron radiators. He managed to drop his end on his foot, and in doing so managed to swallowed his tongue ! I couldn’t get it out with my fingers so had to do the said manoeuvre which thankfully worked. He still had to go to hospital with a broken foot though.

Creusing for a bruising? :wink:

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I did wonder if this was heading in an entirely different direction with a little “man love”!

Reminds me of an episode of Schitts Creek. The one with the town sign. A very funny series for those who haven’t seen it.

Oh yes, he perked up before I went out, otherwise I wouldn’t have gone, and he was ready for a big hug when I returned. :joy:
I’ll show the vet the video on Monday and see if he wants to up his doses.

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Crikey steady on, well done though - horrible experience :bouquet::bouquet:

My latest French lady friend has hair just like your avatar @vero , please don’t disillusion me. :folded_hands:

How nice! A fellow member of The Tribe :grinning_face: mine’s only below my shoulders now, the chopped-off bit has gone to make wigs.

Doh, I thought you’d be jealous.
Old men what can you do with them. :rofl:

Not a lot. :thinking:

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My goodness, shattered my illusions, you are selling yourself. :astonished_face:

Err, but can you tell, i have had my G & T. :roll_eyes:

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Nonono it goes to a charity, my hairdresser chops it, I pay for my haircut as usual, but instead of binning the hair (or giving it to the sea-cleaning people, which is what happens to most of what ends up on the salon floor) it goes to make wigs. That’s also why I grow it so long, the cut off bits need to be 20 to 25cm. I’ve no idea exactly where it goes but it’s sent off to make wigs for people eg undergoing chemo. Apparently there isn’t much white hair available.

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I have to say as I stared Reading I was expecting you to say you had had to perform it at the function you attended. Then when I read that you were on the way home I was half expecting you to say you had to perform it on Jules!

Goodness me, I never knew that was a thing, and perhaps some of yours ended up with my friend Christine as she lost her rich brown hair as the several sessions of chemo took it away from her. During all the false dawns as we thought she was getting better she had a little hat on and I tactfully never asked about it. Finally she went without it to reveal grey hair instead, never occurred to me what had really happened, so from me, on her behalf I thank you and apologise for the cheap crack. :blush:

My inheritance from her is this photo which shares pride of place with Fran and mine, we owed her so much for looking after Fran so well but she brushed that aside with ‘you owe me nothing, I loved Fran’. So if she benefitted in her final months from a gift from you, or some kind soul like you, thank you again. :joy:

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Thank you for sharing this. I have a small phobia about choking after 2 experiences in earlier years. I really struggle to take medication and when living in France many meditate now soluble unlike the uk. This method you used when on your own is a big help and will remain embedded in my brain!

On that note regarding difficulty in taking medication.. I was once given some slow release capsules in France and decided due to my phobia to open the capsule and take the contained granules orally, crunching the contents as they were so tiny, lodging in my teeth. A HUGE mistake and quite dangerous I am told. The medication is designed, as it suggests, slow release into the body. Taking one hit was not a pleasant experience!!

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If you mean to dislodge it it was my last card and hard not to panic. I now know that breathing carefully through the nose to get maximum air in the lungs and then, open mouthed on all fours for the maximum force, the most violent expelling of it was the best thing to do, but like you, I am pretty nervous about it now.

I recently attended a first responder training session at work. I am 50 and I am ashamed to admit I’d never taken the time to do it. We covered bandages, tourniquets, resuscitation and of course Heimlich on babies, children and adults.
I just hope I never have to use any of it.

Caroline you might want to ask your doctor if you can get checked for the same condition I had (a narrowing of the oesophagus) if you have difficulty swallowing anything, even if it’s just certain foods as in my case. I had trouble swallowing bigger pills as well, to the extent that I would cut paracetamol tablets in half.

The procedure I had at the Royal Surrey to widen my throat was pain-free (they sedated me) and worked perfectly. Having a camera poked down my throat to inspect it, without sedation, was more uncomfortable, though they can sedate you for that too.

My consultant said my problem might be asthma-related, or else caused by a thickening of the walls of the oesophagus due to acid reflux. I now take one omeprazole daily to guard against that (which I find easy to swallow!) :smiley:

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