Thanks everyone for advice and opinion on what counts as residence. Now arrived and next dilemma(?) is proof of health insurance. As I’m still working, requested S1 from 29 November as cross border / frontalier (not remote working – but weekly commuting requirement is of course pandemic suspended).
First applied start of November – got a letter back 13 November in UK – they needed a French address for partner. Reapplied with our now sorted French accommodation address. My online tax account showed processed 1 December- called to confirm, yes they said all done, being sent to the French address.
Two weeks later, nothing in the post box. Called up again, yes he said, definitely posted 1 December to France– and said to allow 20 working days to arrive – which is after WA deadline I pointed out! Well, that’s the time we’re told to say, said he. Is the S1 definitely from 29 November? (yes) Can you e-mail me some sort of confirmation? – no, we only do things by post.
So I have nothing (yet) in writing on healthcare insurance. I asked the Captain how long his S1 took to arrive and he kindly replied Dont’ panic, Jonsey! He did start to twitch a bit when it got to Day 12/13 of ‘it will arrive in 15 days’. On Day 15 he got a billy doo from Newcastle telling him that it had been posted and would arrive ‘in 10 days’. It arrived about 3 days later.
Now, whilst I appreciate my S1 may similarly being processed, not posted, my worry is the mec on the phone said it was DEFINITELY POSTED on the 1st – and it’s now the 19th. (Though I imagine he’s not the one doing the post).
So yes I’m getting twitchy! Worst case scenario could be they haven’t agreed it, and I only find out after the deadline. No cover in place = not legal resident = not covered by WA.
By rights I’m entitled to it, I’ve got the printed S1 application and my UK NI contributions on my December payslip, but I don’t think that will work uploading in the healthcare bit of the CDS website.
My instinct would be to hold out past the deadline and argue the case post event if necessary, but if it hasn’t arrived by 31 December, in an abundance of caution, I could always take out private cover for us both as an interim – not cheap, but better than not having WA rights. But wouldn’t want to muck any insurer around (particularly @Fabien - thank get your health insurance sorted e-mail!).
The official document guidance requires proof of residence in 2020 – but for health insurance, no reference to it has to be in 2020.
Surely it can’t be that uploading the CPAM certification valid / dated from March or April 2021 would do?
Remain in France (RIFT) website has document requirements:
S1 (if you have one and …)
Attestation that you have applied to your local CPAM
And … you will ultimately be covered by the French system from the date on your S1.
I’m assuming I can’t go down to the CPAM to apply without the actual S1 form?
Any advice / opinions? (I’d give it a bit longer for billy bunter’s postal order to arrive, but xmas is coming up so hoping to catch everyone or anyone – and merry xmas and a Happy New (France resident, albeit in curfew) year to all!
The official document guidance wording is here (link posted by Geoffrey Sains)
Article 1 (residence)
un justificatif de séjour en France pour l’année 2020 ;
Article 2 (employment / health insurance)
III. - Dans le cadre d’une activité professionnelle exercée en dehors du territoire de la France :
NB for anyone interested and doing the self-employed route, title II. - As part of a self-employed professional activity in France:
proof of registration… and;
proof of the effectiveness of the activity.
Someone starting up in December 2020 can’t really provide proof of the effectiveness in 2020 can they? Remain in France (RIFT) website has ‘Your proof needs to be valid at the time you apply so you will not be penalised … if your business venture subsequently fails.)