No, the dropping birthrate means Germany needs workers. And she is human, and not stupid.
And? (And where did you read it?)
Why never?
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That’ country must never be let off the hook
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As the child of a holocaust survivor I actually find that pretty offensive. My family were more German than Hitler was. My aunt, who survived Belsen, has devoted massive efforts to reconciliation and holds no grudge against “that country” - just the perpetrators.
This only through proper recognition of how these things are allowed to happen that they can be avoided for the future. Blanket disdain does no good.
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In any case, there is no need to forgive Germany. It’s forgiven itself. A YouGov Germany survey found that 70% of Germans believe their country has fully atoned for its past actions.
So that’s all right then.
“Tout comprendre c’est tout pardonner.”
I do not agree.
I have never managed to get interested in learning about kings and queens, and dates and treaties. But I’ve found following a person’s story has been a fascinating way of understanding world events. It makes you think!
Karoly’s story, such little of it that I have discovered, has prompted me to re-visit my own historical family again to see if I can get further this time.
@Pamela_Shields . I don’t know what nationality you are, but I am English and I suppose you would like to condemn me in perpetuity for the British Empire and all its actions in enslaving millions.
And as far as French attitudes to Germans are concerned, I have found that, unlike many British people, they more frequently refer to Nazis, rather than Germans in their condemnation.
Sins of the fathers is a very old fashioned, and inapplicable, philosophy.
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They were probably not even foetuses at the time. Someone born half way through WWII is 80 this year after all.
No it hasn’t - “70% of Germans interviewed believe their country has fully atoned for its past actions”, which isn’t the same thing at all.
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This year the English date of Yom HaShoah, commemorating the lives and tragic events of the 6 million who died during the Shoah, is Thursday 8th April 2021. We will be lighting candles in memory of the individual victims of the Shoah on the evening of Wednesday 7th April 2021.
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Holocaust Memorial Day: Portraits of last remaining UK survivors unveiled
And my aunt, who survived Bergen-Belsen.
The lady pictured in the link posted by @Griffin36 was interviewed at length on Woman’s Hour yesterday. Very moving.
Another year, another Holocaust Memorial Day. A minute of two to reflect.
For those of you you have access to BBC television there is a three part series available on BBC4called the US and the holocaust. It’s a Ken Burn’s documentary amd I watched first episode so far which is interesting.
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Good to see that for the first time Germany is focusing its annual holocaust commemorations on people who were persecuted or killed for their sexual or gender identity.
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Well yes, given that the holocaust victims have a lifespan are they expanding the cause?
What a lovely thing to do. They all deserve to be remembered.
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It’s not an expansion but a recognition (albeit a bit late) that these half million or so were also murdered.
There is also a bit of energy behind the recognition that we are still here. This is an exhibition that was in Berlin earlier this year which focuses on the next generations.
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It’s also important that we remember the first Nazi concentration camps were not for jews or any other ethnicity or sexuality/gender - they were for the communists.
Niemöller’s confession is quite literally true: “First they came for the communists…”
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I find your post offensive. The use of ‘that’ country to refer to Germany and the frankly tired and whinging old chestnut of ‘the French don’t like the English’. To be honest, is it any wonder?! 
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I find your post offensive. The use of ‘that’ country to refer to Germany and the frankly tired and whinging old chestnut of ‘the French don’t like the English’. To be honest, is it any wonder?!
Learning from history. May require hearing some unpleasant truths but in case anyone is interested this BBC documentary review is riveting