You’ve not been through Russian/soviet customs and immigration then
Oh yes I have, many many times Spent hours in Sheremetyevo airport waiting in line with all those Colonel Kleb types in kiosks controlling immigration. That was in 97/98. Last time I went in 2015/2016 it was quite a different experience - far more palatable.
You weren’t among the British students in Moscow in ´97 by any chance? I got married in Moscow in June ‘97.
No I was working at the time, unfortunately. It was a wild place back then!
I haven’t forgotten. Took my husband a year to get an exit visa.
Or trying to get in and out of East Berlin… what a faff. Changing money, passport controls, checking for contraband (anything deemed to western - eagerly confiscated). And the same trying to get back to west berlin…with added scrutiny by the German/american border force.
As a non-German, though, in a non-German car, Checkpoint Charlie were relatively not interested.
Both on the way in to East Berlin and on the way out, though, there was each time Germans in a Trabant. And both times they were really being put through the wringer, extensively questioned and really, really going through the Trabant.
Much better art and museums in East Berlin though, and I gather a lot of West Berliners used to cross very regularly to East Berlin for the Opera.
Oh yes, the joys of crossing the iron curtain. Weren’t soviet times fun? TBH, it wasn’t any different going into Russia or the “stans” post soviet era.
I do not understand this comment. Are you suggesting that borders will be set up between Schengen countries?
Initially, EES control will only happen at third country into EU entry points, such as airports and Eurotunnel stations.
For example, a UK passport holder/national flying in to Spain/Italy/Germany, even if enroute to France, will be checked because a France CdS does not enable indefinite stay in any other EU country but France. Entry into EU is permitted but limited to 90/180 for all UK passport holders regardless of holding a France CdS.
Yes, at the moment anyone can drive into another EU country from France but come an unforeseen brush with law they would need to prove entry dates, and a border monitor would be the trusted method.
In the not too distant future there may be electronic border checks between EU countries to monitor movement and immigration but this is subject to advancement of technology and an EU wide consensus regarding a distinction between freedom of movement and social monitoring.
I think that this is not allowed due to the Schengen agreement. I can’t see this changing.
Correct, and EES should apply to non EU holders of a French CdS when entering any EU country other than France by any method where passport checks are made, but not when entering France directly.
Some interesting points, but how about if I, as a French resident, arrive in another EU country from the UK, get whatever recognition i.e. passport stamp, fingerprints taken…, and then I travel to France and stay there at home. Won’t that show up somewhere and attract questions, as I’ve been ‘checked in’ to Europe, but not ‘checked out’???
Exactly!
Needs a check-in at the France border, which for the present does not exist if you enter by road. I suggest in this case buying petrol on the French side and keeping a few such bills in hand should anyone ask for proof you weren’t still in Spain or wherever.
The only time anyone may further enquire could be if you later leave France by road and try to fly out of Spain or Luxembourg or other EU port.
We really cannot blame immigration checkpoint officials for being confused!
Do many people come “home” to France and hide themselves away…
Local shopping… is paid by cheque or Debit Card… once a week at least…
so for me, that’s an easy means of proving I’m “at home”…
and, of course, there’s the neighbourhood-watch and Mairie … who always seem to know where I am and what I’m up to…
Of course, easiest thing is for us to go to one of our favourite places :Corsica…
it’s like going abroad, while not going abroad…
The reality will be what the reality is.
But reading the text - EU residence permit holders are exempt along with EU Nationals etc. It at no point says only in the country of residence. If it ain’t in the text …
UK nationals, even with a France WARP CdS, do not have the same border or immigration rights in EU as EU nationals/citizens.
“If you visit other Schengen area countries outside France, make sure you do not exceed the visa-free 90 days in any 180-day period. This applies even if you have a French residence permit. You are responsible for counting how long you stay under the Schengen visa waiver, and you must comply with its conditions.“
Bizarre that in the Soviet Union, opera - and of course ballet, flourished (albeit in a very conservative fashion) ; nevertheless I was surprised years after its demise when I had an Erasmus residency at the Charles University in Prague that the city’s wonderful C18th state opera house seemed cheaper than the cinema - saw a fabulous early C20th styled Don Giovanni at the venue where the original was premiered.
Time will tell but I do not think this is about monitoring FoM abuse. It is about controlling TCNs entering the EU.
As I see it the directive is there basically to set out the balance of droits et devoirs and protect both the citizens and the states. If someone chooses to overstay below the radar in a state other than their own, they have no rights there. It is no skin off the host country’s nose.
What a strange article.