How will new entry to France measures this November affect ExPats

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This report from The Guardian

Germany expands border controls

Germany’s interior minister, Nancy Faeser, announced on Monday that the country will extend temporary controls to all German land borders in what she describes as a response to irregular migration and to protect the country from extremist threats.

The interior ministry said that it notified Brussels of the order to set up border controls at the land borders with France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark for a period of six months, the Associated Press reported.

The controls will begin on 16 September, and come in addition to restrictions already in place on Germany’s land borders with Poland, the Czech Republic, Austria and Switzerland.

Faeser said:

“We are strengthening our internal security through concrete action and we are continuing our tough stance against irregular migration.”

The minister also said:

“Until we achieve strong protection of the EU’s external borders with the new Common European Asylum System, we must increase controls at our national borders even more.”

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When one country goes, others are likely ti reciprocate.

I expect that WA CdS holders will have no problems but should always travel in possession of both their passport and the CdS. It will also be wise to keep within the 90/180 limit for EU countries when out of France.

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Or just add Germany to the boycott list for a while!

I’d be really chuffed if drivers would keep to the posted speed limits here in France… :wink:

That’s a little annoying, I was intending to go to Munich for a conference in November. Given that even with a French WDA TdS the German border police could stamp my passport on entry, how could I be sure that it would be equally stamped on exit, e.g. if I cross over at a different crossing on the way back? The “contrôles inopinés” were always present on the FR/DE crossings, but pretty rare on the whole. Since Brexit, they have never stopped us in our French vehicle at any time crossing the border, but if they’re ramping up their security checks, who knows?

If planning to visit Germany, or Austria’s wonderful Christmas market in Vienna :santa:t2:, from October onward may be good to plan using both entry and exit points with border controls. Plenty of choice because it seems at present that the plan includes border controls at land borders with France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark.

A stamp in the passport is really no big thing and will have no bearing on a CdS holder’s right of residency in France but proof of exit from Germany is needed to cover the 90/180 rule limit for UK nationals stays in Germany. Frontier workers may be able to obtain a special pass.

As children we used to politely request passports were stamped as a badge of honour. Old passports make interesting mementoes.

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That’s 90/180 days Stella, not KPH.

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Ahhh, the return of the Grenzpolizei.

I’m off to the Zepplin and Dornier museums in Friedrichshafen next week. If I’m stopped on the boarder I won’t be being polite.

What a nuisance for our family and another family from Munich who have a house near us and come more often.

I wouldn’t worry too much; they lack the manpower, & can you imagine the ‘Stau’ & queues. They’ll be doing a few more random checks & stopping certain sorts, most Western Europeans shouldn’t have much of a problem and just fly through.

I think you’re right. Immigration is a political firestorm issue, German politicians are making a move to be seen as doing something. In practice it may be a much more watered down affair.

I would imagine that the majority of the infrastructure to carry out comprehensive border checks has been done away with as a consequence of Schengen?

I’m wondering what internal political problems Germany is trying to divert its voters’ attention away from, by all this rubbish.

:rofl: :rofl: yep… sorry about that… on the other hand… having spent the last few days travelling… and enduring some really dangerous twits on the roads… perhaps it’s food for thought.

If someone cannot keep within speed limits, ignores the Stop signs etc etc… how on earth can they be expected to change their brain-cells and comply with the 90/180 days… :wink: :frowning: :rofl:

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I’ve yet to visit them as I tend to get waylaid by the restaurants on the lakeshore :smile:

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Some of it has been reinstated, at least at the higher volume crossings, but it was still nothing compared to what it used to be.

The AfD.

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Well, quite.

My first reaction to this news was that it is entirely political. Anyone wishing to cross the borders between many European countries can simply use a remote area to simply walk through.

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Quite. One has to be seen to be doing something, even if it is totally ineffective.

Looks like border controls will become a Schengen-wide direction.

This has actually long been inevitable and reinforces the importance of carrying correct residency documents.

It need to be contested, all it shows is a failure to secure Schengen borders and failed country/EU immigration polices. These are the issues that need to be fixed, not regressing to 1985.

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