ICAD and information

Received an email from ICAD this morning asking for more information although they have already received most of it especially the copies of the pet passport pages. They also havent acknowledged receipt of the cats information sent in the same envelope. Our vet said they are a nightmare and often mess up.
The information requested;

  • History of the animal: why was it imported?

  • The future of the animal with you: personal care, reproduction, sale, etc.;

  • Copies of all completed pages of the passport and vaccination record;

  • Copy of the health certificate (trace certificate);

  • Copies of any other documents accompanying the animal.

Preposterous!

We got the vet to do our cat’s registration. We provided medical history (which the old vet emailed to us: it was a simple download for them) and your items 3 and 4. I presume the vet did the rest.

Bonne chance!

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Wow. Is this a Brexit thing? We never “imported” our dog, just brought here her as she was a EU. citizen (in our little minds🙂).

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As far as we know our vet completed all of the registration, she is very thorough in everything she does but this just seems daft as they have the information all bar the reason for the import (because like us, she likes to travel) not going to be sold or bred etc. Red tape cut lengthways as usual?

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Back to the vet this morning for the dogs worming tablet prior to going back to the UK sigh. ICAD are just a mess the vet photo copied all the paperwork again and emailed to ICAD as they simply are (add your own description) and denied even receiving the paperwork for the cat despite it being in the same envelope as the dogs details which they also said they had not received despite actually registering the dog. Oh well passports are still valid so that job is the important bit.

But you changed her ‘chip’ details with ICAD France, yes?

Yes, they are all over the place. I am only getting everything finalised for the pups that were born last September! (Having said this, I did get a very apologetic call from someone in ICAD the other day)

I think you jest have to perservere. Keep copies of everything you send in. I did not and think it led to my issues.

Our vet is very thorough and a huge help, they said I will keep on at them until they get it right. Still we have pet passports and thats the good bit, no more AHC’s every trip and more if its 4 months etc.

No, nada, nothing :slightly_smiling_face: Is one meant to? She traveled all over the place and was scanned regularly at ports, chunnel, etc. We tend to follow the rules but her Vets (cutely named “Clinique VĂ©tĂ©rinaire la Souris Verte”) never mentioned anything about her chip details needing to be updated.

It sounds like you have now got the much prized EU/French pet passports - if so, many congratulations


Heretical thought but given the above, I wonder how much the ICAD registration actually matters, particularly if they continue to play silly &_##ggers. Obviously it’s best practice/probably a requirement to register, but I wonder if anybody knows what is the worst they can do in practice, as opposed to in theory, now you have EU passports


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ICad registration might be a nightmare BUT needs to ge started withon 7 days off ‘importing’ a cat.
Had a nightmare doing it later.
Rabies testing, declared not enough antigrns, another rabies vaccination and testing, home quarantine for 6 month. I had to take the cat out on a lead - only allowed in our own garden.
Threatened with cat being put fown, 300.000 Euro fine if rabies outbreak due to my cat
etc
ministry of agriculture takes no prisoners.
All that despite having a valid EU passport, proof of purchase from a breeder etc.

As school children in tbe UK we were all warned about rabbies in france and expected snarling dribbling animals everywhere. Of course nothing could be further frim the truth.

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It’s a legal requirement for cats, dogs and I think ferrets to be registered with ICAD that’s not actually enforced (or rarely)- unless your dogs likely to attract attention.

However most vets won’t issue a passport without ICAD now (and thus no rabies jabs) - certainly not to Brits.

They will however issue a Carnet (other jabs, health notes).

Not one of my cats is chipped or registered - vet only asked if they’d travel to UK and never mentioned it again. They have the cat jabs ,- just not rabies. They’re all local barn cats who didn’t agree they were barn cats. (If I need a passport
they’ll be chipped and added to ICAD - it’s much easier to chip and register than to import (deal with existing chip).

It does mean lost animals can be identified quickly

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Except in the Front National, or whatever they’re called these days :slightly_smiling_face:

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My experience of ICAD is nothing other than positive.

Surely this is the first sticking piont, your animal hasn’t been imported as you and your cat/dogs don’t live in France.

Don’t forget that customs have access to ICAD if they think something isn’t correct and they will soon see that info is outstanding.
Strictly speaking the passport should not be issued until ICAD is in order.

But they may not be valid due to outstanding info required.

The worst they can do in practice is refuse travel. An invalid passport is an invalid passport be it for man or beast.
Customs officials don’t listen to reasoned explanations they simply say no.
My own vet wiuld not issue a passport until everything on the ICAD website was in order.
Cart before the horse, or cat/dog/ferret is asking for trouble.

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Our vet has replied to ICAD saying everything is in order and now we just wait. If the pets lived in france they wouldnt need a passport (only kidding) the rules are 3 months so that should be ok. The cats details are reported as ok now so all in order.

Hi Corona

we went to the vet yesterday.
left 10 minutes later with a full passport and full registration of our dog in france.
all jabs done. tapeworm for returning to uk on tuesday this coming week

something sounds a miss I think.

they registered the dog there and then, checked micro chip and transferred etc.

cost €107 euros the lot - with jabs and tapeworm. including cost of passport and consultation.

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Thanks Rob, its pretty much how ours went, we posted the copies of the documents to ICAD as the hard copies should arrive around 48 hours after registration on the online portal the vet uses. I have just recieved a lovely email from our vet who said not to worry they will get this sorted ready for Tuesday as well.
ICAD asked for copies of the passport and registration which we had already sent and they acknowleged receipt of??? Maybe an office junior is dealing with ours :blush:

mmm. There should be a three week wait after a rabies jab before travelling


I wish you good luck for those who abuse the system and obtain a passport for a non resident EU animal.
Thing is I have seen more than once when owners have been turned away from the border because something is not in order.
The only posters here like to say how they have fiddled the system and not been caught, no one every tells the story of being turned away because an official spotted their wrong doing.