Tell us about yourself Becs, and why we should believe your statements? Convince us you’re not another mouthpiece for the IDF propaganda machine.
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I’ve just be flagged as spam! Didn’t realise this site was pro Hamas. Eek! I’m just a retired Samaritan. Think I’ll respectively bow out and let the blind follow the blind, I guess!
Hardly surprising when you join a forum about France and your one and only post is pro-Israel propaganda.
I flagged it as “spam” because we don’t yet have a “pro-Israel propaganda” flagging option, though I expect that’s coming. Tell your friends!
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This site is anti murder and brutality, which is more key. It might have been good to read for more than a minute before making your first post too.
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What a ridiculous thing to say. This absolutely highlights the cult indoctrination happening here. As @Porridge said, you join a site about living in France and immediately post something about Israel, then your first thought as to why your post may have been hidden was that the site is full of terrorist sympathisers? You you realise how nonsensical that sounds? It has nothing at all to do with you joining and immediately posting something wildly off topic to the purpose of the site, it’s that the site is full of hamas supporters. I’m truly speechless at how tone deaf and idiotic that line of thinking is. You made no attempt to introduce yourself with a few chatty comments first, no posting connected to living in France, you join then immediately create a new post about a very divisive subject and then act surprised when it’s hidden because people, or the automated spam filters, think you may be a bad actor.
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I’ve just joined. Sorry I haven’t posted before. Just got home.
Just to be clear on the whole Israel thing, since we’ve had a lot of discussion on it here lately - from what I know of SF members (having interacted with many of them over the last couple of years and also met a few in real life) - I feel there is a distinction to be made between attitudes to the State of Israel itself and its people (which I think I’m right in saying we are all friendly towards) and the current actions of the Israeli Government and IDF in how they have responded to the Hamas attack that triggered the current conflict.
Self-defence is one thing, but inflicting disproportionate suffering and death on non-combatants, especially children, is quite another.
Disapproval of current Israeli policy and actions in Gaza is not “anti-semitic” nor does it imply in the slightest any wish to destroy or harm Israel itself or Jewish people more generally (or necessarily support for Hamas or their actions).
What has upset SF members lately has been new joiners piling in with a rather aggressive defence of Israel that is by and large not warranted by the actual case being made against Israel’s current actions.
ETA: As Kirstie mentioned above, it’s really helpful if you introduce yourself on joining the forum and tell us a bit about yourself and your connection to France, before wading in with strong opinions on emotive subjects.
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No, the site is not pro Hamas.
There is much misinformation on both sides. It is clear that neither side has the moral high ground, Israel has a long record of persecuting young Palestinians which is undisputed and it is well documented that Israeli authorities and Netanyahu fostered Hamas in order to drive a wedge into Palestinian leadership.
I could probably find a dozen other references to Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians. I could, I am sure, find an equal number of negative articles about Hamas even without touching on Oct 7th.
All of which means that I am immediately suspicious of anyone coming along and claiming that one side is all fake news and the other is angelic. Sorry but that’s just the way that it is.
If you have concrete verifiable evidence that is a different matter but hyperbole is just that and not worth the effort, frankly.
Oh, and I will “unhide” your post if you remove the last sentence - we are not afraid of debate on SF but it should be polite and, preferably, backed by reference to evidence.
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Talking of IDF spin, I’ll just leave this here.
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How many paragraphs did it take the BBC to actually get to what happened? The headline and first couple of paragraphs made it sound like they said mean things to him or gave him a bad haircut or something, not that they anally raped him with objects or other at gunpoint while attempting to hide it from the cameras they knew were there using their riot shields. What a thoroughly disingenuous article.
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The BBC feels a need to treat casual readers gently in case they get upset. Using a headline like “IDF soldiers who anally raped and tortured a Palestinian let off” works against that. Plus there will always be a section of the population screaming antisemitism (there will be anyway about this article, even when presented carefully).