Insomnia, and Michael Moseley

Consider making sure you eat a good diet (lots of plants and not that much of anything else), don’t eat too late and avoid alcohol and anything caffeinated. Plus exercise can make a big difference.

I used to sleep very well until I hit the menopause….but I think you are male?

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On advice from BUPA online sleep specialists, after months of concern about not sleeping, I filled in a sleep ‘diary’ for several weeks. I wanted to see if I could spot any patterns or links between those nights I slept well and those I didn’t. It became fairly clear what the causes were in my case (specifically caffeine, use of screens shortly before bedtime).

I am very strict now about maintaining regular bedtimes, plus no screen time in the hour+ before bed, no intensive exercise in the same period, no late night meals, eating only light meals in the early evening, no alcohol, no caffeine from lunchtime onwards, ensure I eat and drink things (eg dark green veg) that can promote better sleep per sleep specialists. I read something calming (in a book) for a few minutes before bedtime etc…I now reckon I sleep well 9 out of 10 nights, which is a huge improvement on the previous patterns.

I guess everyone’s sleep is affected by probably a multiple of different factors but at least with a sleep diary you can begin to focus in on your likely culprits…

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Many of these are are the things I was recommended to do when I started getting very bad insomnia about 25 years ago. I was an avid reader before bed and found it difficult not to read before bed as before it had always relaxed me before sleep and helped me wind down and forget work. I was advised that the best thing was someting that was very dry or even boring. I found Trotsky’s History of the Russian Revolution and anything by Charles Darwin was ideal :thinking:

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I must be one of the lucky few who can sleep anywhere, even fell asleep sitting on a pot of paint last year, a tree stump and in the bath before now.

Dangerous, I hope you don’t climb trees or mountains. :astonished: :wink:

I find that a 30 minute kip in the afternoon helps, but don’t get much chance of that these days.
But I did yesterday, and as a result slept the whole night through from midnight to 7am, mind you, Jules the Beaucie had decided for some reason to sleep with me. Perhaps he thought I needed the company. :joy:

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What helps me to sleep is listening to voices speaking – late night news, discussions etc - on the internet radio. There’s something soothing about voices that sends me to sleep.

Having recently become interested in movie music, the deep baritone epic type – which has a similar soothing effect - as composed by Hans Zimmer/James Newton Howard, I’ve downloaded 2 hours’ worth, which is ready to be played via the USB socket on the back of my radio.

Am trying it tonight!

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I recommend the shipping forecast!

Plenty here

Rather consoling if you’re not actually afloat.
:yawning_face:

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Indeed it is, especially the last one before shutdown, so then followed by Sailing By. I might try it tonight, Recently I have been switching between Classic FM, R 2, R 4 and Nostalgie.

Always nice memories of my Mum too, coming from a seafaring family on all 4 sides, she never missed that before sleep. :heart_eyes:

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A friend who’s an airline pilot once explained that on long haul flights they’re allowed sleeping breaks in the cockpit, when the co-pilot takes over for a couple of hours. Apparently, my friend has woken up on several occasions only to find that the co-pilot had fallen asleep…

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Thank goodness for auto pilot!
I’ve worked nights in 2 of my former jobs and sometimes you can only keep awake by being active ,sitting down for more than an hour with not much to do is very difficult(especially on the first night)
Only to be countered (in my case) by lashings of tea and chocolate . Unfortunately.the addiction to these has continued and contributed to my ongoing insomnia(well I can get to sleep but wake up at 0330 )The tea is harder to give up than the chocolate as I continue with that even when doing a spell of MM’s intermittent fasting.

For some reason I was awake at 3.30 am, couldn’t get back to sleep, read for a bit in bed, tried several background radio stations, got up, had a mug of cocoa and a couple of digestives, read in the chair until the alarm went off at 8. Now I’m tired. :slightly_frowning_face:

Can’t go back to bed, aides due between 9 and 10, then shopping. Maybe then. :thinking:

Yes, but I am bored stiff by these forecasts – heard so many of them over the years. :ship: :motor_boat: :ferry: :cloud_with_rain: :tornado: :umbrella:

When I close my eyes waiting for other voices to send me off to sleep, I listen and am interested, until sudden oblivion.

I found last night that although listening to music I like, sending me off to sleep, I was disappointed because the Internet Radio can’t give me the pleasure that earphones can. The quality of sound is completely different.

Might give Bluetooth earbuds a try, if they’re safe to fall asleep with while wearing them.

That is often the issue, partially why I upgraded my hifi the setup gives me more pleasure than my sennheiser headphones.
Some doctors do not like bluetooth earbuds as they can impact on sleep due to the radio frequencies affecting the inner ear and brain but its a bit out there for my understanding.

The other half suffering terribly from insomnia at the moment. Will find the Mosely show to see if we can learn more.

Sorry to hear that, no late evening snacking.
No caffeine after 4pm.

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He did a book called “Fast Asleep”

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I found the 3 volumes of the chartered institute of insurance course books very good, usually nod off after 3 pages :blush:

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What worked for me when I suffered from insomnia was no caffeine after a certain time, as @corona suggests, doing more exercise during the day and reading something extremely boring for about 30 minutes before sleep. For exercise, I would park 20 minutes walk from work and did 20 minutes walk at lunchtime giving me 3 lots of 20 minutes of brisk walking a day. For boring reading I can highly recommend Trotsky’s History of the Russian Revolution and anything written by Charles Darwin.

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Spot on with the Russians! I recommend ‘War and Peace’. In English.

After ten minutes trying to sort out who is who from the enormous and unpronounceable cast of characters…. :sleeping:

If that doesn’t do the trick, try again with no specs and a cup of camomile tea :nerd_face:

War and Peace is wonderful though :pensive:

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