Interesting AI Floyd/Maiden fusion?

There are lots of debates about AI produced music and copyright - which I don’t want to get into with this.

I think this is a failure - in that it unambiguously does not sound like Floyd. Not even late era stuff, though it is closer to that than, say, Wish You Were Here, or even more so earlier stuff.

But who does  it sound like?

Initially I thought Magnum, or Marillion but the more I listen to it I am not sure.

Suggestions in the comments include Genesis, Hawkwind, Moody Blues, Tull or even Supertramp - none of which is right as far as I am concerned.

Also - much as I hate to say it - it’s quite good.

So who do you think it sounds like?

Might work if one was a teenager who’d just smoked something, or whatever they do these days, but to me it just sounds overblown and clichéd.

Haha, what have you done Billy!! The hub and I have just listened to this and we have a hung jury.

His first reaction is unrepeatable on here, but truly didn’t like it. He got the Floyd flavour, but not impressed by the dumbed down Gilmour guitar, for him they’d thrown too much in and it resulted in a mess of styles.

I’ll have to listen again as I’m not sure if I like it or not, but neither of us like the singers delivery it’s way too dreary and studied. For me it’s the unpredictability of the human mind that can create amazing music and maybe that’s what I miss in this?

You’ve got me thinking :thinking:, not sure it’s good for this early :face_with_spiral_eyes:

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So, like a mix of Pink Floyd and Iron Maiden then?

I think a lot of AI generated music lacks what you might call “soul” - in the same way that AI images often do.

My suspicion is the reason it has that “familiar but can’t quite put my finger on the band” quality is because even though it has been told to do the piece in the style of Floyd it can’t quite get all the other bands that have figured in its training out of the equation.

Anyway I like Floyd, Maiden and probably most of the bands in there so, as I said I quite liked it - but I won’t be buying the single.

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I’m not listening to a bar of that until I know if the Maiden part is Di’ Anno or Dickinson.

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I think the Maiden part wil be just the tune & lyrics.

Consume nitrous oxide from gas cylinders

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Sacrilidge. (sp)

Yep I think so too, poor Andy, (hub), nearly fell off his perch when he realised it was Run to the Hills, I felt guilty so made him a nice cuppa to get over the shock!

I ceertainly heard the Moody Blues in it.

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There’s more - the full list is:

00:00 - Run to the Hills
07:19 - Hallowed be thy Name
18:54 - Wasted Years
25:44 - Fear of the Dark
33:50 - The Number of the Beast
41:52 - The Trooper
46:10 - Walking on Glass

Listening again I can pick out more Gilmour-esque guitar some of the time (but not consistently). I think it’s the vocals which are most wrong for Floyd.

I’ll have another listen when I’m on my own. The vocals sound wrong to me for both bands, I don’t think I be happy to listen to that voice for very long. It seems to be more suited to the mournful, cut your wrists type of songs that the industry’s busy churning out.

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It did sound a bit Floyd like at the start, and then I thought I caught some Ian Anderson vocal sounds. I’ve never listened to Iron Maiden so can’t really comment. I’m not sure I want to listen to AI music any more than watch Tilly Norwood acting.

I made a prediction, some years ago, that if you wanted to see actual humans perform you would need to go to the theatre.

I was thinking about “conventional” CGI at the time and I made the prediction in the early 2000’s - sometime around 2003 IIRC with a “by 2020” timeline.

I wasn’t quite right in that - but it’s increasingly looking likely that would be possible within the next 10 years.

At the moment I think the main sticking point will be that audiences want to see the existing stars they recognise in productions, but I’m not sure how long that will last.

Hadn’t heard of Tilly Norwood.

Saw a brief video. As usual, those who created her obfuscate and conflate. Something created by AI is not analogous to something performed on synthesizers.

Casting the net wider it seems there are a lot of these AI generated “music by band X in they style of band Y” things. In fact it turns out that I posted one in the “Music to lighten the mood” thread.

I know I said I wanted to keep the discussion to the artistic merits but I can’t help thinking this more directly harms the artists involved unless it is done with permission and appropriate royalties paid. I find myself wondering if this is the case.

Except it’s probably more like 80%, when it comes to music. Rick Beato and others have commented on how homogeneous the charts have become.

And people don’t necessarily like it: it’s just what’s easiest to produce for the record company. Why have something hard to manage, like a band, when you can have a tame singer?

Apropos my comment above - one could also say why have something difficult to manage like an actor, when you can have a tame AI?

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Not sure how I can judge this sort of stuff on artistic merit because there isn’t any really, imo. I just see it as cobbling a lot of music together and presenting it as new,. It might be passable but it lacks flair, imagination and possibly, the brilliance of the human mind.

I’d truly hate to think that at sometime in the future, kids may grow up never having heard music that people created or any human created art at all! Never really thought about it, but I’m bloody glad I grew up when I did!

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The question as to whether it is fundamentally different to any other cover version applies, I think.

Someone still has to prompt the AI.

I suspect that people will still want to make music and there will be a grass roots scene - after all, upcoming bands have always needed somewhere to perform prior to “hitting the big time” so that will probably continue, I don’t see AI channging that.

Chances are we will not see the supergroups emerge as we did in the past - but I think that’s also happening anyway, again - AI or not.