It's the way you (don't) tell ’em

Specifically, giving a pre-Budget speech and withholding the good news that tax revenue is up, so that people are prepared for tax rises.

It’s quite a weak look, I think.

Chancellor Rachel Reeves has been accused of misleading the public after it emerged she knew the outlook for the government’s finances had improved well before giving a gloomy pre-Budget speech to pave the way for a manifesto-busting income tax rise. The head of the Office for Budget Responsibility, Richard Hughes, revealed on Friday in a letter to MPs that official forecasts for the public finances were much rosier than Reeves had suggested in the run-up to the Budget. The Treasury had known since September 17, when the OBR delivered its initial set of economic forecasts, about the stronger wage and inflation assumptions that offset the £16bn impact of weaker productivity on tax revenues, Hughes’ letter said. Hughes wrote to Dame Meg Hillier, chair of the Commons Treasury committee, to “set out the facts” on how the OBR’s fiscal forecasts had evolved during the chaotic run-up to the November 26 Budget. The OBR’s forecast process has come under intense scrutiny because government insiders suggested last-minute improvements in the watchdog’s projections allowed the chancellor to ditch her plan to raise income tax rates on November 12. But Hughes’s letter confirms that the “pre-measures” forecasts — reflecting changes in the economic and fiscal outlook since March, but not the impact of new policies — were finalised and submitted to the chancellor on October 31.

Richard Hughes, head of the Office for Budget Responsibility, ‘set out the facts’ on Friday on how its forecasts had evolved during the run-up to the Budget

The October 31 forecasts showed that, without any policy changes, Reeves was set to meet her fiscal target of balancing the current budget in 2029-30 with a £4.2bn surplus. That ran counter to the chancellor’s narrative that tax rises were inevitable to fill a big fiscal hole, created primarily by the OBR’s downgrade to productivity growth forecasts. She blamed this on historic failings by the last Conservative government.

Kemi Badenoch, Conservative leader, claimed Reeves had misled the country about the state of the public finances to justify tax rises for higher welfare spending. “For months Reeves has lied to the public to justify record tax hikes to pay for more welfare,” she said. “Her Budget wasn’t about stability. It was about politics: bribing Labour MPs to save her own skin.”

Downing Street strongly denied the chancellor had misled the public or MPs. Kemi Badenoch, Conservative leader, claimed Reeves had misled the country about the state of the public finances

On November 4 Reeves gave an early-morning Downing Street speech warning she would ask everyone to “contribute” to repair the public finances following years of poor productivity growth, which she partly attributed to Brexit and Conservative austerity. Helen Miller, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said on X: “On Oct 31 Rachel Reeves knew that — before any policy action — she still had a forecast surplus.” She added: “Why then that odd breakfast TV speech?” Paul Johnson, former IFS head, said he thought Reeves’ November 4 speech “probably was misleading”. He added: “It was designed to confirm a narrative that there was a fiscal black hole that needed to be filled with significant tax rises. In fact, as she knew at the time, no such hole existed.” The OBR submitted its initial “post-measures” forecast, factoring in the impact of policy changes under consideration, on November 10, the same day that Reeves said in a BBC interview: “It would, of course, be possible to stick with the manifesto commitments but that would require things like deep cuts in capital spending.” It was only on November 13, in a week of frenzied speculation that Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer might face a leadership challenge, that the Financial Times revealed the dramatic U-turn on income tax rates. Amid market panic that Reeves was losing her nerve and ducking difficult decisions on taxes and spending, government insiders claimed the change of heart was down to the OBR producing more optimistic forecasts than expected. The chancellor’s team insist Reeves did not mislead anyone and that her November 4 speech was needed to prepare the public for the Budget. Even though the chancellor decided not to raise income tax rates, a freeze on personal tax thresholds and a raid on pension salary sacrifice schemes mean that taxes are going up by £26bn. Reeves’ colleagues argue that the OBR forecasts did improve during the autumn, giving her more room for manoeuvre, and that these shifts informed her final tax decisions. The OBR’s October 31 forecast showed an improvement from its initial “pre-measures” fiscal forecast, delivered on October 3, which showed the chancellor missing her current budget rule by £2.5bn and her investment rule by £500mn. But Hughes said the change between successive forecast rounds over the course of October had been “smaller than usual” for an economy with “around £1.5tn of expenditure and £1.5tn of revenue”. Even given the OBR’s relatively benign forecasts on October 31, Reeves still had to find an additional £12bn for a big increase in welfare spending — including abolishing the two-child benefit cap and reversing reforms to disability benefits. Downing Street insiders have admitted that politics were a driving factor in the decision and that breaking the manifesto by raising income tax rates would have been an “extreme” measure that would have fuelled a voter backlash. Hughes said he had agreed, with the Treasury’s agreement, to take the “unusual” step of releasing details of the forecasting process because of the amount of speculation that had been expressed ahead of the Budget. The Treasury said: “We take Budget security extremely seriously and believe it’s important to preserve a private space for Treasury-OBR policy and forecast discussions, so we welcome the OBR’s confirmation that this will not become usual practice.”

Labour seem a very British party, working to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. You have to wonder what is going on, because even stupid people wouldn’t be making such obvious mistakes, surely. And if it’s not stupidity then why ARE they doing this, because it’s not for the good of the country.

Maybe the curse of a massive majority, where most people were voting just to put the Tories out of our misery?

I see frog-faced Farage has reported Reeves to the independent ethics adviser… Seriously, you couldn’t make it up :rofl:

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It’s another unforced PR own goal for sure.

As for the actual economics, two points occur to me.

One, OBR forecasts are just predictions, even if they improve they can also “unimprove” themselves in a few months’ time.

So it would be prudent for the Chancellor to plan for a worst case scenario.

Second, I don’t know how fast the bods at the Treasury can spin their abacuses but I would imagine that tax and spending planning takes time, so switching things up in a few weeks may not be practical.

ETA: but there is always scope for what the press will inevitably call a “U Turn” in future if things go better than expected.

Also, the shouts of outrage are coming from parties who either implemented totally unfunded tax cuts and crashed the economy (the Tories under Chancellors Kwarteng and Hunt) or are promising them (Farage).

Pots and kettles is a phrase that springs to mind..

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Absolutely agree. There’s a lot of manufactured outrage.

It’s a pity Reeves gave them the raw material. Unlike the last few scandals, it’s obviously not a resignation matter, but she’s made herself look lacking in confidence.

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Except for whoever runs Labour’s PR operation, they desperately need to get their act together. And also have a training course for Government Ministers on how to avoid “foot in mouth” situations.

It’s inevitable that the Press and Opposition jump on every little thing, but it does get a bit wearing.

I am not a Labour supporter (as most know I incline towards the Lib Dems) but I wish they could be given a bit of breathing space to get on and do the job they were elected for without all the armchair critics carping all the time.

Managing a country’s affairs is never easy and it’s especially hard right now with the aftermath of Brexit, plus Trump, Ukraine etc.

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An interesting approach. It’s manufactured outrage but it’s the target that’s at fault. The bottom line is that she could be perfect and the outrage would still be manufactured. Much worse has happened in the previous 14 years that’s been defended by exactly the same people because it’s been done by one of theirs.

Some go on with the somewhat misogynistic “Rachel from accounts” but we never heard similar nicknames for Kwarteng while being utterly irresponsible, Hunt (at least none that are printable) when he was deliberately salting the earth, Sunak while encouraging us all to eat out and spread the virus. It’s simply double standards.

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There’s a different view from Stephen Bush which I find more concerning. Unfortunately the actual article is behind a paywall but this gives the gist.

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If Reeves and the Treasury had just said nothing in the lead up to the Budget then they’d be no calls for an investigation or resignations, luckily for Reeves the OBR cock up has resulted in the head quitting which will take the heat off for now.

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It’s manufactured outrage and the target was at fault, I’d say.

I agree the “Rachel from Accounts” slur is mysogenistic (I saw Nick Ferrari purporting to defend it the other day: among the other examples he gace was “Flash Gordon”). And it may be because Reeves is a woman that she’s less willing to face down other politicians (unlike Badenoch) and seems to crumble when under pressure.

I agree that it would be nice to see Labour just getting on with it, @ChrisMann , but it’s Labour politicians who keep making unforced and frankly lazy errors. Maybe they thought that just being Anything But The Tories would be enough. If they did, that was fairly naïve–but, again, the leader is someone who is a poor politician.

Translation : We bollocked the OBR.

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There always is. One only has to watch the infantile schoolyard antics of Prime Minister’s Questions to know that.

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Interesting from the FT

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Exactly. It’s all a piece of shit-stirring by the usual suspects. They would be doing it even if J. Hunt Esq. had still been in charge of the piggy bank.

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Well, gents, the “appeal to authority” is, of course, a fallacy.

As you have illustrated very neatly here, by showing that your authority figure (the FT) can produce contradictory opinions within a couple of days!

Not so much authority as a source I trust

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