Moving caravan from Ireland to France - registration questions

Hey all! I’ve been reading the forum for a while, but this is my first actual post.

We’re moving to France in a few weeks, from Ireland, and we want to take a caravan with us. Now, this is a bit of a tricky question for us since caravans aren’t registered in Ireland. Can I legally take a ferry with my caravan, drive my car+caravan to my new place, and leave it there for a bit, without any issues? Do I need to provide any documentation upon entry? What could be my options here, so that I cause no issues for myself or anyone else? Thanks!

I presume you’re importing your car? Well it’s the same process for your caravan, if it’s over 500kg. It’s all done through https://ants.gouv.fr/ or there are agencies that will do it for you for a reasonable fee.

Did you just ask the same question on Reddit?

This is what the UK government says about taking trailers to mainland Europe so you might want to check if Ireland has a similar system.

Do you have an EU certificate of conformity for the caravan? If not, French registration will be a long, slow and expensive process. Most people give up.

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Hey John, yup, I did :smiley: Thanks for your response! I do have a CoC I think. But it just seems easier then to use a small (750kg) trailer and leave the caravan here in Ireland.

Trailers over 500kg need their own registration too Anton. You haven’t really done any research, have you :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

The one thing I can assure you of, is that things are a lot stricter and more complicated here than in Ireland. I wouldn’t just wing it if I was you. If you are moving get your ducks in a row and it will be a lot simpler in the long run.

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Hi John. No, I have done the research - still, the regulations for 750+ are a bit more difficult. For under 750kg we pretty much have everything in Ireland too (CoC, etc.). For over 750kg (an actual caravan, beds and all) - it becomes difficult, since to Ireland they’re all the same as long as total mass is under 3500kg. For France - it seems they are different again. At the end of the day, it’s just a cheaper investment to get a 750kg trailer, load it up, drive to my designated location, unload, and then register. Am I misunderstanding this still?

Pretty much every French caravan I’ve ever seen on French roads has the number plate of the vehicle towing it, same with trailers with a PTAC not exceeding 750kg.

Is it not possible to simply stick a plate that corresponds to your vehicle license plate on the back of the caravan, and then change it over once you’ve registered your vehicle in France? How would the French administration know that you aren’t just touring for 3 months? Is there something I’ve missed?

Never having done it, I’d reckon that registering a trailer or a caravan is probably the same amount of hassle. I’ve a 500kg trailer that I have taken to Dublin, it was safer and cheaper to just buy a trailer than to pay some removal company for the one item I wanted to bring down here. It may make more sense to buy a 500kg trailer and do two trips. I presume you’ll be back and forth anyway?

We"re just off the ferry now in Cherbourg.

Where are you moving to?

That would suggest that every caravan is under 500kg, which doesn’t seem realistic.

This definitely isn’t right as the trailer needs to have its own plate if it’s over 500kg

I wouldn’t be too surprised to discover that a number of French drivers are “ignorant” of the requirements :smirking_face:

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A French caravan exceeding 750 kg (which almost all are) needs to be registered and insured. Buying new the dealer would register it, buying used it would already be registered.

Registering a UK (or Irish) caravan in France is fraught with difficulties.

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I don’t think so. But in Ireland that is certainly the case, hence my cautionary advice to Anton. Ireland is cowboy country for motoring law enforcement :roll_eyes: For example…

Large numbers of disqualified drivers still not surrendering licences, says road safety group

Data compiled by civil society organisation Parc shows widespread disregard of requirement by motorists

Over the two-year period 2022-2023, just six out of 232 drivers in Co Carlow surrendered their licences on being disqualified by the courts. Photograph: iStock

Over the two-year period 2022-2023, just six out of 232 drivers in Co Carlow surrendered their licences on being disqualified by the courts. Photograph: iStock

Large numbers of disqualified drivers are still not surrendering their driving licences with their designated driver number, making it difficult for gardaí and insurance companies to determine that a ban is in place.

That is according to the civil society group Parc which has compiled a league table of the number of disqualified drivers, by county, who have simply failed to hand up their driver numbers to the courts and return the licence to the Road Safety Authority (RSA).

Over the two year period 2022-2023, just six out of 232 drivers in Co Carlow surrendered their licences on being disqualified by the courts. The number was four in 2022 and this fell to two in 2023. Over the two years this represents a compliance rate of just 2.6 per cent.

In Dublin city and county there were 4,708 disqualification notices issued in 2022-2023 but just 154 people, or 3 per cent, complied with their legal obligation to send their licence back to the RSA.

Under normal circumstances a driver on being disqualified by a court, should produce their driving licence so its driver number may be noted by the court. The licence is then handed back to the defendant or their legal representative, to facilitate 12 day period in which an appeal may be launched.

Should no appeal be launched or an appeal be ultimately unsuccessful, the law requires the licence be returned to the RSA.

However, the RSA has previously told the Oireachtas Transport Committee that to police such an arrangement, and to prosecute disqualified drivers for not returning their licences, the RSA would have to have staff in every court which deals with motoring offences.

New Garda hand-held devices which can scan insurance discs and licences can tell if the driver is insured or has a licence, but without the driver number being recorded by the courts the is not accessible record available. “The hand held devices do not give access in real time to the National Driver File, so even if the courts have recorded a ban, it may not be visible,” said Parc’s Susan Gray.

According to the league table just seven out of 230 banned drivers in the two year period 2022-2023 surrendered thier driving licences in Co Longford. The figure for Leitrim was six out of 90.

Ms Gray said the organisation has been seeking figures since 2017 on the number of drivers who were prosecuted for not returning their licences but has still not been given the figures. “It is an offence but one they wont give us figures on,” she said.

Just seven banned drivers out of 303 surrendered their licences in Co Monaghan; while in Co Laois the number was 13.

In Kildare just 42 out of 793 drivers surrendered their licences in the two years to December 2023.

Catherine Murphy TD for Kildare North who tables a Parliamentary Question to secure the release of figures for those disqualified drivers who fail to return licences, said the numbers were disturbing.

“You would have thought that once somebody was disqualified the system would automatically reclaim their licence.”

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Nice to know :confused: this is yet another area where successive Irish governments have failed to grasp the bull by the horns.

I was told you can’t register a UK / Irish caravan in France because the door opens on the road side unlike on the kerbside in the UK.
True or not it put me off buying a UK one …

Would that also affect motor homes? I am merely curious, having neither.

It’s not true at all.

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Hello @Anton_L

My understanding is you bring your trailer over from Ireland using the number plate of the towing vehicle.

No one in customs is going to challenge this, as tourist, holiday makers, sports persons are doing this process daily.

if you then decide to keep the caravan and register it for use on French roads you need a certificate of conformity and the caravan needs to be under a certain age (not sure now what that is, but older trailers / caravans are not accepted) then with your COC you go on the ANTS website and register. Follow the instructions it works ok.

The rules regarding CT (a type of MoT) have been relaxed now and no longer needed on larger trailers over 750kg capacity.

have fun, enjoy the new life in France.

R.

Do you know why it’s different for UK and Irish caravans? Is it a Brexit thing?

Edit: yes, you are correct. I wasn’t up to date so I’ve removed my post.

To be fair, all Irish governments since the first in 1919 have been mostly shit. Most Irish TDs (MPs) are shit, some are really, really shit. Parish pump politics prevails.

A small number have been brilliant. Seán Lemass springs to mind, the man that lifted Ireland out of the “maidens dancing at the cross roads” bullshit of his predecessor, Éamon de Valera, and set Ireland on the long road to becoming a real viable modern country.