My offer on my property near Uzes has been accepted!

Well done with the remote signing.

Other people will know more than I do, but two houses that we bought in France had been holiday homes were part-furnished. We agreed a separate sum that reduced the frais de notaire, but it never included what I would call fixtures.

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Personally, I would look again at the Advert to see how the property and its price are described.

and then I’d speak with the Notaire .. all you need to know are what things can legitimately be classed as “furnishings” and will this reduce the fees ??? :wink:

As I recall, we bought a small cottage for ZZ and the furnishings for XX (beds/chairs/cutlery that sort of thing). The Notaire carefully showed the 2 sums in the calculations of the Purchase Price.

However, he then left the room for a few minutes and I found out later that this was in case “money was going to change hands to avoid his fees”. Of course, this was not how we do things.. we sat and chatted quietly until he returned.

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Seems it is.
Our selling agent explained to us that up to 10% of ‘fixtures and fittings’ could be itemised within the overall selling price which does indeed reduce notaires fees..
The compromis will show a list of such things and also show The agreed selling price as a whole which will be the property including the listed fixtures and fittngs.
Do be aware of items being listed that are clearly part of the house fabric and would raise a red flag.
Our agent asked us for a valuation on our woodburner suggesting it was not part of the house fabric but I pointed out that as it was plumbed in to the heating system it was, they agreed.
Historically when we bought our first French property in 1992, when we viewed it had a kitchen and shower room albeit primative.
When we took possession we were enraged to ffind that both kitchen and shower were gone.
We were later told that was normal, you bought a house, not what was inside it.

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Well done!

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It can be the Wild West, can’t it? We viewed a house that we didn’t buy, the people had ripped out all of the light fittings and just left bare wires dangling from the ceiling.

Having done a quick google of this, the rules don’t seem clear to me.

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Good grief…!! but I note that was in 1992

In 2003 when we were buying a different property, I was aggrieved when the Seller removed a garden object which we had previously discussed and was “meant to be” part of the house-sale. No-one mentioned the bath/kitchen etc… that was definitely part of the house! If she’d taken that lot “heads would roll” :wink:

The Seller did offer me another garden thingy, saying that her grandchildren had begged her not to give away their “childhood memory”… but we didn’t bother and we are still all great friends.

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That happened to us back in UK. We’d sold our “improved” house at a good price and made a sideways move before finding another project.

Having left our home in immaculate condition for our Buyers, we were gutted to arrive at this new place and find the wires cut at the ceiling in every room, even the loo :roll_eyes:

If I were a newbee here in France, I’d prefer the Notaire laid things on the line so that I really did understand what was going on before I agreed and/or signed anything :+1:

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Yes, have done the same. It’s legit.

However be aware that the fisc can ask you to prove the price paid is genuinely what they’re worth. My notaire went to great detail to check we could justify the costs, if needed.

Oh, and my bank wouldn’t allow me to include the cost of these “fixtures and fittings” in my mortgage. As I’m a bit at the limit (long story) we had to juggle some figures to make it all work.

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You have luxury. When we bought in 1989, we were left with a chair and a bowl, three solid fuel cookers and a load of stone boules plus a ring for a bull’s nose. Had to make do with a porta potti for about a year until the most import job was done, a fully flushable loo and a fitted bath and sink. You will get there but don’t expect it to be quick, this is France, not the UK!

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When looking at houses, we saw a number where the kitchens had been ripped out, light fittings gone etc. I’d already heard it was accepted practice so wasn’t shocked, but it really devalued the houses. I’m glad in retrospect that we paide 2000 euros on top iof our offer for furniture etc, although I don’t think the vendor would have torn out the bathrooms - she didn’t even remove her own possessions.

In the 1980s friends of ours bought a house in London, and found everything gone including wall sockets and light switches. I think that was referred to their solicitors, though the bathroom in a rather unpleasant puce was left behind.

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I wish you well in your new house and in your life there.

I’m interested in purchasing a property in France in the coming year or so, initially as a holiday home, and Gard area is a possible target area for my search.

Brian

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When we purchased our French house we were advised very strongly by friends to inspect the property on the way to the completion signing. Our friends over the years had stories of ‘missing’ sinks, baths, electrical systems, hot water tanks etc

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My sister went to look at a house not that long ago. The kitchen had been completely removed apart from a couple of manky units, the light bulbs, the toilet seats and the shower fittings. Turned out it was a repossession sale and the defaulting owner had decided to take what he could.

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I’ve never understood why fitted kitchens are ripped out like this - there’s relatively little resale value in used units, and it looks so horrible if done pre-sale. A house above ours in Cussy that we saw at the same time had the kitchen gutted, and it was just a mess, as well as over-priced.

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Welcome and what a fantastic choice of place to live. Like @ykm71 , we are not too far away though Yogesh is practically in Uzes.

Congrats!

One if our fav wine producers is at a place called Baron on the way to Ales and well….you will discover all of the delights of living in one of the best parts of France very soon (I’m biased of course)!

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Indeed, it’s very common for houses to be passed on without a kitchen at least. Rented properties often don’t have kitchens either and people take it with them when they move. Our neighbour is moving into a social housing property owned by the commune and it has no kitchen so I’m going over on Saturday after she gets the keys to measure up for a kitchen that I’ll fit for her.

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A friend of ours in the UK bought a house about 30 years ago and someone had removed all the internal door handles.

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I read somewhere (Reddit iirc) that in Germany it’s common for rental properties to not have any flooring :rofl:

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Same in Holland!

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Yes we visited Baron, Euzet, St Maurice de Cazevieille, also Villeneuve les Avignon was pretty.

Our house is in Dions 15km from Uzes.