Naturism on the rise

So French like Marie Le Pen? Would that infer that you are similar and that people could draw ridiculous stereotypes from it?

Okay so tan lines and sand. Never really understood the first, but I KNOW it’s important to many many many people and I’m not sure the second will be alleviated by taking off your “loincloth”. :wink:

That answers why in general but not why on a public beach - however if I’ve understood you correctly , you, personally, never go nude on a public beach.

No idea what the population of Lacanau get up to, it was an example. As for the rest it’s irrelevant to the discussion and tantamount to a straw man.

It might imply it, you might infer it.
People can draw ridiculous stereotypes if they want, that’s their problem not mine. I’m not responsible for what people think and honestly I don’t care what people think about me as long as it stays in their head.

Probably a form of confirmation bias.

I’m a very observant person and as an aphantasic, every vision is a first vision, after looking away, I have no visual recall, so your nudity will be safe with me. :wink:

It was linked to your erroneous comment about being French and therefore understanding French culture and French life. I was trying to show that you are an educated, white, old (?) privileged woman (etc) who thinks she understands the lives of all the French people when you would really have little clue. Of course you may have walked in all of their shoes and I’d be completely wrong. Because like you I’m making assumptions.

Mostly people aren’t all squashed up together, quite the reverse, they keep a good distance away, the beaches are big enough. I think you have to make a conscious focused effort to see anything, and I wonder why anyone would bother.
It seems like giving yourself a lot of trouble just to be offended.

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I hope you see the irony of what you wrote here.

p.s. Thanks for showing me how to quote something. Might make my posts a little easier to understand - though not much.

Woman, probably privileged, otherwise revise your assumptions.
And now I’m blocking you.

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Ouch. And I thought we were getting along marvelously.

I shall leave the Gen chat in peace.

I think winters in Brighton might be a bit more pleasant than in the ‘frozen north’, having said that it’s not be that cold anymore.

Back last century at school in Fife we used to swim in the sea practically all year, albeit not for long, mainly because it was forbidden :wink: and certainly not naked as it’s in town.

It’s very trendy here to swim in the sea, lakes all year round but I don’t know if they do naked, I rarely go to beaches so probably have missed a lot. I wonder if the nasty practice of covertly filming parts of womens anatomy when they’re on a night out and posting on the internet, will have a negative impact on public nudity? Bad enough with mobile phones but those awful glasses will make it even easier for the weirdo’s.

Goodness I hadn’t even thought about that. Urgh it’s so sad that an innocent and available-to-anyone wholesome thing to do is twisted and made unpleasant by weirdos and perverts and prudes.

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Must admit to being totally unaware of these pervs, until I watched a documentary a little while ago, about it. I think the bit that really shocked me was some of these guys were traveling all over Europe to big cities like London, Manchester, Paris etc. it’s how they make money on the internet.

I suspect this would be covered by existing laws. It is illegal, in the same category as upskirting.

I’m not sure if it is, there’s no nudity and rarely show faces, it’s all very weird.

It would be different.

“Upskirting” is prosecuted either as the common law offence of outraging public decency, or as voyeurism (S.67A(1) Sexual Offences Act 2003). I don’t think either provision would catch someone out and about with a camera, photographing people in the street.

I meant it was in the same category in terms of vileness. Given these glasses are fairly new I doubt anyone has thought what category to put the abuse of them in yet.

But I would have thought taking pictures of someones anatomy and publishing it without their permission must be illegal, the online safety act may cover it .

What of similar laws in France?

My brief research suggests Outraging Public Decency (which always seems to me an ingenious application of an old law to a new wrong) has no equivalent, but voyeurism?

Also https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/id/LEGISCTA000006165309/2021-02-01/#:~:text=Lorsque%20les%20délits%20prévus%20aux,60%20000%20€%20d’amende.

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The glasses issue was recently made very public when a so called celebrity, (he was some sort of comedian I think but I can’t remember his name), went into a shop and recorded his interaction with staff, then plastered it on the internet. The members of staff weren’t aware he was filming them and he didn’t tell them or ask their permission to use the footage online. He didn’t think he’d done anything wrong!!!