I don’t think any US citizens (at least those who are native born, European looking and don’t do or say obviously imflammatory shit) have anything to be concerned about while visiting the US. Still sounds pretty awful. I myself am a US/IT dual and would have no reason to be too concerned (probably would clean up my phone though) if I were to visit, but I have no interest or reason to go back to that sh!thole country.
You can see the contradiction in this sentence?
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Of course, but it’s a matter of degree. If they chose me/my phone (statistically, less than 1 percent chance) for an invasion of privacy I would no doubt be detained while they look through it and hassle me, but they won’t be sending me to El Salvador.
The way the orange buffoon is talking, I’m not sure I could be so confident.
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There’s still space at Alligator Alcatraz. I think I read someplace that the average cost per night per client there is about $400- so a bit more expensive than the hotels that we had been placing these folk in previously.
ICE have already deported US citizens, as well as non-citizens with 100% legal resident status. And it started well before the Trump era.
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This particular person was arrested, but apparently, not deported.
Citizens that are deported in error will eventually find their way back, if they so choose.
It is bad enough there but so far citizens still have rights there even if they are being temporarily abused.
Further down the article it references a government report which stated:
between 2015 and 2020, ICE erroneously deported at least 70 US citizens, arrested 674 and detained 121.
I imagine with the current administration’s cavalier attitude to due process in how they arrest, examine and imprison people that the number of “errors” is only likely to increase, especially now that many billions of dollars have been allocated to recruiting new ICE agents - it’s debatable how adequate their training will be, and it’s known that they already have quotas for numbers of arrests to fulfil.
As to whether deported people will “find their way back”, that will depend on what resources and influence they have, and also seems to be something that the Trump administration has very little interest in facilitating. The case of Mr Garcia who ended up in that notorious El Salvadorian prison is instructive - it took a lot of political pressure and a Supreme Court ruling to get him returned.
But good luck, it’s your country. 
Oh, come on. There are thousands , hundreds of thousands of Americans who come and go as they please.
I’m sure if you examine with a fine tooth comb the practices of the UKs immigration services you will find plenty of anomalies.
There are, of course, certain people, in any country who are not quite on the straight and narrow for whatever reason and become a statistic.
I am not one of them. I don’t think you are one either. Those people had better just stay out of sight and not move around.
The US happens to have elected one as POTUS.
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I am sure that there are.
But it is equally clear that ICE are a law unto themselves, with a huge budget and a obvious problem with “due process”.
It is also clear that the problem with due process goes all the way to the top
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As the saying goes, “It’s not a bug, it’s a feature”.
In the US, we’ve got a son to visit and a bunch of our stuff in a storage unit to go through. We’ve been putting it off, sadly. Just not wanting to deal with any of this crap right now. If we do go, it’ll be with old phones that have been wiped of almost everything, and we’ll be flying in and out of Canada and taking the train to our former home.
Forgive me if I don’t take comfort in that.
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All true. But if you are asking ME if I would be worried about going back to the US and returning to France, the answer is no.
I don’t fit the profile.
At the same time, if I were to go, of course I would be on my best behavior (always am anyway) and would be sure not to insult or punch out the first immigration official I see.
So, who are these citizens who are deported in error? What are the circumstances?
Other than a few children that were citizens that got deported with their undocumented mothers, one a 4 year old undergoing cancer treatment I don’t think any other citizens have. Some have been detained thou.
I’ve no idea, and I didn’t suggest any had been. I’m just not comfortable with a glib “they’ll find their way back” if the tangerine man follows through on his rhetoric.
They are likely to be non-English speaking , brown people, suspected of crimes, who are unable to immediately prove citizenship. Perhaps they lost their birth certificates or don’t even know they are citizens and have nobody immediately available to vouch for them.
If these people are citizens they simply can’t be deported as of now. That doesn’t mean they won’t need to get legal help or won’t spend a lot of time and effort to get back. (Pro tip- stay out. There’s nothing great there).
Who knows where this is going. The US isn’t a police state yet, though certainly the funds have been provided to make it so.
I’m afraid what I’m reading in papers like the Guardian and the Washington Post sounds more draconian than this.
And some EU citizens have been refused entry or removed for minor offences and a lot of inoffensive academics feel threatened, especially if they leave the country.
It depends on everything going according to plan, during a visit to the United Snakes. This guy was unlucky enough to injure his leg.
Irish tourist jailed by ICE for months after overstaying US visit by three days: ‘Nobody is safe’
Irish tourist jailed by Ice for months after overstaying US visit by three days: ‘Nobody is safe’ | US immigration | The Guardian
I would not go to the USA.
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Wait, there’s more : ’ Thomas and his girlfriend, Malone, were visiting her family in Savannah, Georgia, when Thomas suffered a mental health episode, he and Malone recalled. The two had a conflict in their hotel room and someone overheard it and called the police, they said. …said she was hoping officers would get him treatment and did not want to see him face criminal charges. But police took him to jail, accusing him of “falsely imprisoning” his girlfriend in the hotel room, a charge Malone said she did not support. He was soon released on bond, but instead of walking free, was picked up by US immigration authorities, who transported him 100 miles away to an Ice processing center in Folkston, Georgia.’
So…don’t do stupid shit when you are in the US somewhat illegally. JFC. How many times do you visit a foreign country and have the cops called on you?