Passport stamps

Brits with Withdrawal Agreement protection are exempt from both ETIAS and EES.

Absolutely! receipts for the high end restaurants, and casinos allowed, (doubling down on the nitty gritty) :slight_smile:

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With this ease of flowing from one Schengen country to another… what Healthcare Insurance does one need in place… for visiting Schengen from France ???

and does Car Insurance still work, if one has flowed across a border… :wink:

My car insurance does and I’m in a 3rd country. :innocent:

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Ah yes… but what about repatriation etc…
I’m just mulling over the situation where one can inadvertently flow from France, into another country, and perhaps not be “covered” in the same way as one would be in France…

Hmm… strikes me that if I lived that close to any border, I’d have to keep my wits about me, or have amazing insurance/cover… just in case… :wink:

night night everyone…

I confess I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about WA residence permits (as they will never apply to me) - if that’s the case for Adam1 I probably owe him an apology. Will do more research.

One’s CEAM/EHIC/GHIC covers the basics and it’s a choice to top up with travel insurance. My car insurance is EU wide.

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My bad - I used the term “douanes” to cover anyone official, as opposed to BF check- in staff.

I’ve never been pulled by actual douanes coming back to France through Ouistreham (despite being in a van many times) but I know people who have, & been made to pay duty on new goods they had with them.

I have had the pleasure of being inside the customs shed entering the UK at Portsmouth - once for a reasonably thorough search of my van, the other when the side door fell off during the routine all vans check at passport control. A very helpful anti-terrorist officer guided me there & proceeded to spend nearly an hour with me whilst we fixed it together.

Can you point to sources for those assertions Biff?

I did find this on ETIAS

Who does not need an ETIAS travel author

> A national of the United Kingdom who is a beneficiary of the Withdrawal Agreement

UK nationals and their family members who are beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement are exempt from ETIAS: they may reside on the territory of their EU host country and travel to other European countries requiring ETIAS as long as they hold documents proving their status.

For more information, please check this website.

But this website didn’t really clarify any thing.

And I found this regarding EES “The Entry/Exit System (EES) will be an automated IT system for registering travellers from third-countries, both short-stay visa holders and visa exempt travellers, each time they cross an EU external border.”

I think the whole thing is pretty confusing. A CdS holder can spend as much time as they like in France but less than 90/180 in any other schengen country, yet there are no border controls between schengen countries to monitor that? :thinking: Does that mean a residency permit from any schengen country actually enable’s one to spend as much time as one likes in any schengen country? it’s all all bit complicated. Surely there’s an idiots guide from the Foreign Office?

Post Brexit, apart from the withdrawal agreement provisions and contrary to all the Brexiteer promises British passport holders are on a par with those from Bongo Bongo land. Just a matter of getting used to it :roll_eyes:

Like John I found this and this website which says that holders of a WA CdS will be exempt from ETIAS

But neither say anything about EES - which is really what we are discussing here.

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Cheers Jane…

You’ve confirmed my thoughts… that it is important to know at all times… in which country one is travelling… :wink: :wink:

I think it probably means we can spend as long as we like in Germany or Spain for instance as long as we are not stopped in a perfectly legitimate way by a police person whilst there. But then whether we have to prove (tickets, fuel receipts etc.) our entry date or whether it is taken on trust, is another matter.

I am thankful that this is academic for me personally, I cannot imagine any situation at the moment which would cause me to spend 3 months somewhere else.

Luck of the draw. When we flew to Canada last year, via Brussels, my wife’s passport was stamped leaving Schengen in Brussels airport even though she showed her WA resident permit. Mine was not, but we went through separate booths, so apparently it depends on the individual border guard on duty at the time.

Look on the green insurance pamphlet for the countries covered by your car insurance - they are listed, along with any exceptions.

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Article from Connexion last February… explains all… I’m sure I’ve linked it previously… I’ll check asap…

Meanwhile, this is their take on the situation…

EES is a way of tracking the movements of “non-EU Visitors”… In and Out of the Schengen area…

All us Brits who are Resident in a Schengen country , Do Not fall into the EES “Visitor” category … :slight_smile:

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“Non-EU citizens who are legally resident or have long-stay visas to live in an EU Member State will be exempt from EES.”
(note the word EXEMPT :wink: )

as per the July 2023 UK govt… link already posted by @billybutcher

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-eu-entry-exit-system-and-eu-travel-authorisation-system/
and if one is loathe to trust UK govt stuff…
here’s the same thing from Europe

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Bods? I my experience they’m not he - they’m she, they be.

Rabbit hole approaching :joy:

I’ve come across both genders at check-in, but wasn’t aware that “bod” was a gendered thing, hence my using it.

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I’m as unaware as you… :wink:

my understanding is that “bod” is just shortened version of “someone/body”, when there is no need for more info…

eg “there’ll be a bod at the entrance…” means someone will be there…" :wink:

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