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I seem to have lived in a different worldā¦ 
Camberwick Greenā¦ WoodenTopsā¦
Magic Roundaboutā¦
Well, that was an unpredicted turn.
Back to the original subject:
Iām going to put my hand up on this one - I canāt find anything which says an āordinaryā (i.e non-WA) residence permit conveys extra privilege outside its host nation but it is clear that WA residence permits, indeed probably other residence permits will āconvey exemption for EES and ETIAS and there are no border checks internally in the Schengen zone anyway so even if the 90 day rule continues to apply thereās basically no way to police it.
If you fly into another EU state there are checks.
seems reasonableā¦ no problems with anyone checking my credentials
I admit it does go round and aroundā¦ but ānon-EU person Resident in Franceā doesnāt apply just to Britsā¦
You will not need an ETIAS travel authorisation if you are:
A holder of a residence permit or a residence card issued by any European country requiring ETIAS
FAQ: EES Does NOT Apply to:
- Holders of residence permits and long-stay visas
I had the same a few years ago there in my car. Did you see the airport style scanning machines ?. They took almost everything out of the car and put several items through the machine whilst hand checking the other stuff. They also checked the underside of the car, the wheel arches etc and used a sniffer dog. It took about 40 minutes in total. I did wonder at the time if they had some sort of tipoff about a particular type/colour of vehicle and that mine matched. All clear.
Iāve flown several times within the EU to/from France to Portugal, Italy and Ireland since Brexit. We only had our passports checked entering and leaving Ireland, I assume because it isnāt part of Schengen. No checks, apart from having a valid boarding card, were made for Italy or Portugal, which are within Schengen. Strangely, we didnāt have any checks leaving or entering France to/from Ireland which I would have thought should have been done. This was Carcassonne airport though 
I wonder if weāre over-thinkingā¦
Iāve a French neighbour who had to get all sorts of documents together, before she flew off to wherever on holiday the other yearā¦
and anotherā¦ recently on a cruiseā¦ had to have all her docs with herā¦
Makes sense that the Travel Authorities/Companies do know who theyāve got on board
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Furthermore,
However, there does appear to be a gap where Brits with WA residence cards are concerned.
Outside our countries of residence, the 90/180 day rule applies to travel in the rest of the EU, but the EES is the system that is meant (in future) to monitor movements across the EUās external borders by third country nationals who need shortstay visas to make visits and also those from countries who do not need such visas.
So, if they are exempt, itās not clear how the movements of Brits with WA protection will be monitored.
Which is exactly what I said above 
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Are you bovvered, Biff? personally this is one I would not be jumping up and down on. As compared to just seeing how things turn out and raising questions only if turns out there is sn issue.
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What Ā“docsā ? Other than a passport ? Or presumably a visa if it was a country requiring one?
Last week I travelled from Luxembourg to Tenerife Spain. A trip within Schengen. I have a 10 year WA residents card. I had to show my passport at check in and security at Findel Airport Luxembourg. No stamping. On landing in Tenerife I did not need to take my passport out of my pocket. We went straight through to baggage claim.
The Facebook group Brits Living in the EU27 (7 years after brexit) has over 7,500 members who are all British Citizens who live in the EU. They will have the answer to these types of questions.
Membership is restricted to those who are resident in the EU, EEA and EFTA
Thatās interesting. I never check in luggage, and most airports just use those boarding card scanners to get through to security, so no passport required. Maybe if you check in luggage, with an actual person present. they do check your passport, just because they can ?
Quite an exclusive club then, might take a look.
Ryanair for one check your passport against your boarding card at the gate. I donāt think itās security, itās some bee OāLeary has in his bonnet about making sure whoever bought/booked the ticket is the one flying.
Possibly depends on the country to be visited and the transportation.
When I went to visit friends for lunch onboard the Residensea vessel anchored in the SoF, I had to leave both my passport and CdS with Security onboard, only to retrieve them when disembarking. And I didnāt even leave the harbour!
I expect things are getting tighter to monitor flow of illegal immigrants, terrorists and others. Seems increasingly that people will need to present ID wherever they may go. Letās just hope we remain under a benign government. 
Now I come to think of it, I have had my passport looked at when boarding on some Ryanair flights, but certainly not all. Bezier to Bristol recently with Ryanair certainly didnāt check, just the boarding card. Donāt think you actually need your passport in this case though, and itās not really a passport check in any border control sense.
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Thatās more to make sure that you donāt stow away on the vessel when it does leave harbour. The documents go in the Pursers safe and are handed back when you leave the ship. Any left means a stowaway.
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