Peage flux libre - A13/A29 Rouen+Le Havre

Because I know the route well and I doubt its 10 minutes quicker at best during traffic times and may be less km’s and quicker still at 6am.

I may out of interest try both and see but the toll ish route is quite a big loop around and not a scenic. One time there was power boat racing on the river so I stopped for a while to watch and have a coffee.

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Fair enough, I just have memories of it being very stressful as GPS drops out in a tunnel and we did it a couple of times in bad traffic! We don’t do it often!!

I think we have all been there! If the road had diversions as in the past it does get interesting but after so many trips the fear has subsided. I will give it go though as I said when friends come over its easier for them so may as well test it :nerd_face:

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Not much of a step from that to making all roads chargeable, is it?

Whilst you could be correct Karen, its more likely to be pay per km. Certainly the number of cameras put up on lamp posts around london, they cannot/would not be needed simply for ULEZ so we expect that to be on the cards.

I think the cost of putting cameras up to do that would outweigh the revenue received. Easier and cheaper to introduce a road tax (aka vehicle excise duty) as in the UK.

The ULEZ cameras are on the edges of the Zone; the rest are either speed cameras or to allow TFL and the cops to monitor traffic flow. Or they are private security cameras.

Road charging is a very unpopular policy; it’s accepted (grudgingly) only where it’s clearly in exchange for faster or easier travel e.g. autoroutes or the M6 Toll, or river crossings like Dartford. although in the latter case I believe the tolls were only meant to be imposed until the crossing was paid for. :frowning:

Yes I can understand but watching these cameras being put up every 200 m or so raised many eybrows, they were not ULEZ. Now I can say that many of them have now gone so it was some form of experiment.
Khan is introducing tolls for the Blackwall tinnel and the new Silvertown tunnel very shortly. Probably so he can waste another £6m rebranding a few more train lines.

I’m pretty sure most of them are for traffic monitoring - you can actually use them to plan your own journeys:

…although it seems that at the time of posting the live feeds are currently offline due to a cyber security incident! :smiley:

The advert in the corner is also quite ironic…

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Maybe but as the devices were placed on small minor roads around where I live, I am somewhat doubtful. You can understand they would need to be placed to monitor per mile type journeys on all roads and very regularly. Its probably something they were trying out.

Ah I didn’t know that. Yes it does sound like some devious experiment.

Exactly.

Ok put it to the test :nerd_face: the A13 etc is actually more km’s than Ponte de Larche D6015 route but A13 due to it being a faster road is…only 5 minutes less time. So if you are not driving fast …

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Good info!

Not sure if that would apply for those of us heading towards or from Le Mans / Tours / Poitiers and points south-west - coming from the Dieppe ferry I generally go through Rouen and on to the A28 (only briefly on the A13 for the short stretch from Grand Couronne to Bourg Achard).

When I come over in June I may try a detour via Yvetot and the Pont de Brotonne - according to Google Maps it’s only about 15 mins slower and cuts out the whole Rouen roadworks and traffic zone.

Thats where I go to and from via N154

Oh OK, I usually jump on the A28 as I don’t mind toll roads, boring as heck though they be… :slight_smile:

Its the boredom that gets me, especially if travelling on my own. Breaking the journey at Brico sheds to look at offers etc or shop to save a later journey.

Yes me too - and also when I’m on the bike I suffer from NumbBum™ if I don’t stop every 90 mins or so.

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Motorcycles and motorways. The two should not mix in my world.