Peages amd 30 kph

I took it last Sunday, it costs €3.80 and you pay it online within 72 hours.

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I was about to post that tagless autoroutes are already being trialled but Stella beat me to it.

Autoroute pay points will only accept cards that permit instant deduction of the toll cost without linking to a processing centre which precludes those that don’t. It used to be pre-paid cards and certain debit cards but, as a very long trim tag user, I may not be up-to-date.

What point? Everything works very well. I’ve never had a problem on a French autoroute, including péages, badges, 30kph lanes… Just once, a tow rag in a tatty little car seemed to latch onto our bumper, making two vehicles as one, and managed to get through the péage behind us, at our expense.

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That improvements could be made to the system and it sounds from other posters that this is happening. Not really about having a proplem, neither have I but love the feeling of passing through swiftly whilst some could take 10-15 minutes to catch up. Seeing the huge queues at the August charge south just starts one thinking what if.

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My understanding is that the tags are not 100% reliable, or rather, the readers that energise the tag and expect the frequency response from the tag, at speeds above 30 kph. It might also be that number plate recognition wasn’t previously able to be used at tollbooths for civil misdemeanours of this type, i.e. jumping the barrier, so to speak, until recently (I’d have to check what the law now says, as there was some debate about it).

EDIT for sake of anecdotal evidence : I used to drive to Saint Etienne once or twice a week from Clermont Ferrand. The number of times that the tag failed was actually statistically significant, so much so that I started leaving the motorway earlier to use a toll booth that was more reliable.

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I use my motorway tag a lot, professionally, and there is nearly always some eejit who has taken the 30 kph lane by mistake and is shamefacedly trying to back out of the lane. Take away the barrier and this guy gets a free ride! No way!

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Take away the barrier and this guy gets a free ride! UNTIL HIS FINE CAME THROUGH IN THE POST, MAKING HIM WISH HE’D JUST PAID THE TOLL IN THE FIRST PLACE

corrected for you :wink:

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No they wont as ANPR cameras could bill them.

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Apologies if I’ve told you this before :roll_eyes: :worried:, but once on that very short section of peage on the A13 south of Rouen I pulled in but it was a basket peage. Not having change I went to a neighbouring booth and offered a tenner. I was given the money, thinking I had paid and it was change, because as soon as I got back in the car the barrier went up.

There was a lot of hooting and in the mirror I saw a bloke waving his arms in anger. I drove on and, too late, realised that I hadn’t paid but been given change to throw in the basket. I had pulled the car forward to the barrier and that left enough room for a follower to throw his money in the basket, which caused the barrier in front of me to go up…and then down again before he could get through. :blush: :rofl:

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I’m afraid it’s human nature (to some), that if there were no barriers everyone would use it, badge or not! You cannot enter or leave the motorway system without going through the payage, so how would a non barrier exit work? Not very well I’d say!

Because a camera reads the number plate and you pay that way. Keep going back to the Dartford crossing that removed the barriers to reduce the queues.

That would not be a very efficient way to run the motorway system! The letter might cost more than the bill and they might get 50% back without having to take debt recovery steps for the rest, some they would never get back.

You would set up an account just like you do with the tag…

There are enough disastrous stories about the dartford payments on forums/Facebook groups to know it doesn’t always work so well. The police can use the barriers as a tool to catch people, for example that leave a petrol station without paying and other reasons.

Mainly because people havent set up an account and forget to pay.

The police may have a small advantage having a physical barrier but if they are using ANPR already they can track and intervene at any point.

It’s probably just one of the things we would have to get used to if it I happens, but I feel safer with the barriers. For context, I work on the motorway system so use it 19 times a month.

Some reporting it is near Etiene so see what happens over the years.

I’ve just had a thought… if one doesn’t stop and pay “on the spot”… will that prove inviting for those who would use false-plates… who certainly won’t bother to “pay-later”.

I’m presuming there’ll be a security aspect in place to prevent this … but as far as the baddies are concerned “where there’s a will, there’s a way”… ?? :wink:

It won’t happen any time soon over the whole network due to the cost involved and will most likely happen at any renovation time, look how long and how big a joke it took them to convert the Dartford tunnel, years.
I reckon I will be long gone before all the network gets rid of all the barriers.

You will have to pay and there will be a choice of ways to pay. This explains it all…