If theyâre filtering the water to remove bacterial contamination then isnât that a good thing ? Itâs separate to the question of whether it can subsequently called ânaturalâ or not. Thatâs a legal question. If they didnât filter and bacteria was allowed into the product I think people would rightly be asking why they didnât filter it 
. So in the end, they probably canât win either way. They do deny that there is bacteria in the source water, but if not then why filter it ?
Itâs a lot worse than that. One of the scandals involves NestlĂ©âŠa group that had been in a few scsndals involving appalling hygiene standards in food factories, harmful petfood (their brand Purina) etc.
Que Choisir says the state let them get away with the water filtering violation and that a responsible Minister helped cover it up.
Reminds me of Coca-Colaâs Dasani water brand, which in 2004 was found to be nothing more than standard UK tap water from the mains at the bottling plant in Sidcup, and also one batch contained more than the permitted levels of bromate - despite being supposedly highly purified and sold as âpure still waterâ.
The brand lasted five weeks before being withdrawn from sale in the UK.
Yeah and you remember the commercials for Dasani? Palm trees waving on tropical beaches ISTR.
Well they have some giant redwoods in Sidcup Place Park but no palm trees AFAIK. 
The P***ier one has been going on for a long time. We havnât bought any of their bottled products for several years now.
Yes, I remember that horror story. What on earth made them think they could get away with it. Maybe in the US, but not the UK. The Perrier story is a little different as the water still comes from the same source it always has, although it is passed through a 2.5 um filter which will remove bacteria but wont alter the mineral makeup of the water. This is what Perrier is relying on to argue itâs still ânaturalâ.
I donât buy it anyway. If I want sparkly water I prefer Badoit, but is that any better ?
Iâm starting to not have much faith in bottled water given how many brands seem to have problems. At the moment weâre favouring our own Brita water filters and a Sodastream for fizzy water. It also saves on bottles being shipped around the country. Some restaurants here are filtering their own water.
Ironically when I bought the Sodastream I had seen their advert about saving plastic bottles which seemed like a good idea. It came with a plastic bottleâŠ
Well, itâs got a more subtle fizzâŠ
Well yes, and I prefer it for that and the taste.
Ours came with two. I donât really use it though as our water doesnât seem to do good fizzy water. Weâre on granite and the water is very soft so very little dissolved minerals which is I think why it doesnât work.
You can get them with glass bottles now, more expensive model but much better all round.
Not a nice corporation. Indeed several Swiss corporations are not nice corporations.
Other than the glass bottle, which TBH Iâd be scared of dropping, how is that machine compared to earlier ones ? I have the one with a lever and donât think Iâd have got on with the earlier push-button ones. But as and when mine fails I was wondering about the metal one.
Yes us too. We have avoided a ton of plastic bottles since we bought one three for four years ago. Though we still do buy sparkling. I canât see that changing, but Iâd love if they came in cardboard âbottlesâ.
As we recycle away, I bore the hell out of my poor wife complaining that the problem is at the source of all this packaging. Trying to fix the problem at the backend is futile, time wasting and stupid.
The issue with plastic of course, or at least the issue with the world making less of it, will always be that who is at the start of the journey? The Petrochemical industry. If they canât make money by the world using internal combustion engines (and we all know theyâre doing everything they can to ensure we continue to do so), all theyâve got is plastic, so you can be damned sure theyâre not going to give that up, hence the whole focus on recycling rather than stopping using plastic to start with. If weâd started on a journey 40 years ago to irradiate all unnecessary plastic production I strongly suspect that with recycling/ reusing existing material, the world would be in a whole better place, but instead they just started wrapping absolutely every consumer product in it, when half of it is plastic thatâs being wrapped in plastic, as all that matters is these vast companies keep making more. I find it all so very depressing, while still trying to do my bit of course. We all know itâs unnecessary but unlike with ICEs to EVs, there doesnât seem to me to be any real movement, or any desire to move, the world is still absolutely held together be plastic use.
Also, with all this talk of Sodastream, letâs not forget that although owned by PepsiCo, they are an Israeli business who until a huge amount of pressure was put on them had their main manufacturing plant in the West Bank. While they did at least employ a lot of Palestinians there, it was absolutely somewhere it shouldnât have been, and closed, according to the owners at the time, in part to Netanyahu cancelling the work permits of the Palestinians in a move to blame the BDS movement and draw negative attention to it.
Sodastream? That how we have stopped buy fizzy water. Meant as a generic as other non jewish ones are out there.
The glass bottles are very thick, a bit like Pyrex, Iâd post you a link to the one we got but Iâm useless at tecâ stuff. We got ours from Lakeland, in the UK , if you want to see if itâs suitable for you, I find it easy to use which makes a change for me.
Bit extreme 