We have a Magiline pool which a couple of years ago was modified to
Modified To?
Oops posted before I finished should read as follows:
Our Magiline piscine was modified to use Hydrochlorite de Sodium which worked perfectly well for at least the last two years. However the pool has developed an electrical fault which causes the house electrics to trip every time its switched on. Regretably the engineer from the small company that maintained this system has died and the company only now sells supplies. Magiline will not help as the pool has been modifiedl We are in 64 near St Palais and desperately need to find someone who knows what he/she is doing to help us solve this problem.
Curious, sodium hypochlorite is mainly what pools use apart from a few left field non chlorine systems. Often Magiline use a salt chlorinator but that produces sodium hypochlorite.
So it sounds like your pump is shorting out so probably the start run capacitor which is a very low cost part and an easy fix for any electrician or either contact a bobin rewinding service who could carry out the work for you.
I wont comment on Magiline as I have nothing good to say about the company. If it is a failed motor winding then there are replacement pumps available.
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Thanks for your reply. Are you saying that any pool company should be able to sort out the problem. Getting someone to come here is proving to be very difficult!
Any electrician. We don’t use a specialist pool company to do any of our pool electrical repairs, just our friendly electrician - for example he replaced the bearings in our pump, he swapped our pump for his while he did it.
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As Sue said, any competent electrician would easily handle it, most common pump failure is the start run capacitor and at around €15-20 plus fitting. Same thing in a pool shop €40-45 if they even stock them, others make a song and dance about it and charge more still.
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If someone does replace the start/run capacitor, make sure that the one they install is ‘S2’ safety rated. This means that if it fails, it will fail open-circuit and is protected against shock and fire hazard. I know someone who had one replaced with a cheaper ‘S0’ rated capacitor on a motor and several years later it failed, caught fire and did lots of damage.
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Hi just signed in to survive France , I hope you got the tripping issue sorted,
We have a Magiline pool, we built it ourselves 9 years ago, the pump is acting up, initially it would start then tripped the pool consumer unit as an overload.
Switched off quickly , always! Removed the filtration pump from its housing, the impeller wouldn’t move
However , with a bit of persuasion it freed off , put the “O” ring seal in the housing then fitted the pump back in its position, a bit awkward as I hadn’t been given the pump handle to aid pump installation and removal .
Pump back in and locked, reset circuit breaker switched on pump running, ok .
You have to be quick, even with the valve shut below the pump , water gushes out of the pump housing into this tank affair catchment below pump.
Weird, because of this backflow , you cannot take the pump out for winterising the pool, in any case I would need to have a 5 pin 20 amp single phase blue , commando plug and socket to disconnect the pump.
In addition to have a dummy pump case to install in the pump position, to prevent the pool backflow into this catchment tank below pump.
All I can say is well done for perseverance, I really do not have anything good to say about these monoblock setups from Magiline, Water air or Desjoyaux. Nothing but a real pain when things go wrong and you learn the shortcomings of their filtration units. That said it really was the poor flow performance of those setups that allowed me to design and setup the low energy pools systems. 90% saving in electricity and better filtration and water quality.
Welcome to SF @Kenboy & I hope you enjoy the vast amount of advice that’s available here.
Along with others I’m a pedant & have to point out any technical errors that get posted. This is with the intention of helping keep things accurate & useful for other users. So…you mention the need for…
However, such a thing does not exist.
If you have a three phase pump you could use a red 4 or 5 pin 16A CEE17 connector. If it’s single phase it would be a blue 3-pin 16A CEE17 connector.
‘Commando’ is the name given to such things by the manufacturer MK, but it is just their brand terminology & is not a standard term. There are many other manufacturers of these connectors.
Depending on the location of your pump & it’s potential point of disconnection you could use a standard plug & socket if it’s single phase & not in a wet environment. For three phase a CEE17 connection is going to be better than the slightly quirky French standard three phase connectors.
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