To be fair, @George1 did post that link in post #80
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Just wondering @JohnH how one would apply for a WARP now that everything has to be done through the ANEF platform.
None of the options offered on ANEF seem to match this situation.
I did also check our prefecture’s website (where they used to offer an “admission exceptionnelle” route which is the one WARP applicants were being advised last year by the Prefecture to use, usually to be met with refusal) but now the prefecture just directs you to ANEF for anything to do with cartes de séjour.
Just this week, I sent an LRAR to the prefecture asking that very question, since they haven’t replied to my two emails where I also asked.
Next step is to actually visit the sous-préfecture if I don’t have an answer by the end of the month.
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[quote Just this week, I sent an LRAR to the prefecture asking that very question, since they haven’t replied to my two emails where I also asked.
Next step is to actually visit the sous-préfecture if I don’t have an answer by the end of the month.
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Yonks ago, I was firmly told that a LRAR “demanded” that a Reply be given to the Sender… in other words “could not/should not” be ignored by the person/whatever to whom it was addressed.
In fact, the person who told me this reckoned it was inconceivable that a LRAR might have no effect at all…
so if the Prefecture does ignore you… I expect heads to roll, at a high level 
OK. Best of luck.
I’m starting to think we might end up having to go down this route after all when I retire end of 2025. My husband is having the most incredible difficulty getting his first Irish passport (even though he has been granted citizenship).
At least both you and I have the spouse-of-an-EU national route to fall back on.
Like you, Jane, pre Brexit, I had a CDS as well and it did smooth the wheels for some medical stuff
Must confess that I feel content when, in a medical situation, I offer my CdSWA along with my CV & Mutuelle… and the staff never blink an eye, let alone ask for the PP…
I do have my Passport in my pocket/ready (as per all the Notices etc… ) just in case
Before Brexit, it was the PP which was sometimes asked for… and sometimes not… in fact, more often not in the early years
Thanks Angela.
I’ll consider it when I retire and have to surrender my special residence permit. Right now the thought of any more dealings with bureaucracy makes me feel physically sick. Between the Irish passport office sending out wrongly worded requests for supporting documents and ANTS refusing to recognise the titre de séjour spécial, I’m tearing my hair out.
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LRAR to Free network cancellling my line with them was signed foe, admitted by Free to have been signed for when I chased it up 3 months later…
And was totally ignored.
Did you complete their form?
I recently cancelled my adsl contract with Free, I did it online, very easy process and everything went smoothly.
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Sandcastle, I followed exactly the résiliation instructions of Free in sending them my LRAR of résiliation.
Noting that the lying cheating barstewards known as Free, are the only network I’m aware of in France that actually requires a LRAR in order to cancel with them. Strictly speaking they only require a hard copy letter in writing to their given Paris address. But read the forums and you’ll know their lying apparently will extend to denying receipt of any letter (or return of Freebox, say) not sent LRAR / contre signature.
Since my cancellation followed months of what I considered fraud by them which is why I cancelled, then Free actually admitting they’d received the LRAR but they had totally ignored it snd kept tsking momey from my bsnk account, at that time in my early knowledge of consumer abuses in France , took my breath away.
You must be on a different package, I had the basic adsl/TV etc offer and no LRAR was necessary. I never sent a hard copy at all. I filled in the online form and got an automatic response immediately confirming the cancellation and explaining the sequence of events and it all went like clockwork. I received the return label by email a week or so later, posted everything back, got the final bill shortly afterwards and it was correct. I had kept my receipt from the tabac preciously because I had read so many tales of people being charged for not sending equipment back when they had, but nothing like that.
It must be the luck of the draw.
Mine was a few years back. Probably about 3.
Mobile only. Wouldn’t touch Free with a barge pole now provided Orange doesn’t go the way of other signals and disappear.
Hi George
Well applying for renewal and it’s started already lol.
First asked again for proof of address even thought two docs sent so sent another.
Now a month later they are asking I think fir proof EU spouse supporting me ( pension letter UK)
I had already sent numerous pdfs of bank statements showing pensions in , savings etc.
Trouble is letter not arrived and new request gives me 30 days to send letter.
I have one from.last year re increase to pension so going to send that. I am also.going to send same for me
.A little concerned just asking for spouses income which is like your wife . Sufficient for him alone but not the two of us.
Anyway I looked at directive you put and under 11, there is now no point 1 saying should be issued for 5 years ?
Can you put here the relevant bit in French that maybe I can send ?
Thanks
Hi George
regulations (in French) to show the period they should have granted you (ie the 5 years). Obviously no guarantee but it seems a reasonable approach to try and correct a obvious error in the first place by your initial Prefecture. I’ve attached the regs in French.
Article 11(1) sets out the 5 year term.
EU Directive 2004 38 FR.pdf (170.1 KB)
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looked and can’t see an 11 .1 mentioning 5 years ?.
I’ve uploaded a screenshot of Article 11(1) in French which hopefully makes clear the 5 year validity of a CdS. Good luck and do keep us in the loop as to what happens. They really ought to be giving you the 4(?) extra years you’re entitled to.
Although their request is technically correct (it’s the EU citizen’s financial resources only that are supposed to be considered) my strong advice is to show the income from both of you. Do ensure it’s clear to a reviewer of the evidence exactly who owns each individual source of income. The objective is to demonstrate that you as a couple will not be a financial burden on the French state, through being financially self supporting.
I plan to do exactly this myself next year for my renewal. I am preparing a schedule that shows a summary of income, with supporting pages that will show each source of income with proof/justificatifs. I also plan to include proof of any financial generating assets as well. For example if I was letting out a property, show the rental income, and proof of ownership of the property…Overwhelm them with relevant information, ideally in one package/file so there is less excuse for them to mislay it!
Best of luck with all this…
Morning George
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Yes thats why i am a little upset. i sent pdf bank statements, joint uk acvount ,my own uk accou t.
joint and single Revokut acvounts plus our bank acvount in Spain we still have. All.obviouslyvshiw our names either joint or singular , some are savings though it diesnt stste savibgs , just kept separate from.account we use to pay bills.
Also di a spread sheet showing income as i habe two small pensiins go in quarterly.
oy thing i did not include is detailing we own house , no mortgage etc.
Think i will need to send pension letters requested but include a letter stating living here permanentky , own house . Also stating its joint finances as per bank statements.
Someone did say despite the 5 year minimum if they thought nit enough proof staying here they can issue less. i do know quite a few from.fb pages only issued a 1 year cds.
i am wondering if ours was because we were renting at thye time ?
Quite fed up of it to be honest as last year had all the same finances but of course more savings as had not purchased.
Now less savings so very worried how will view renewal.
Very sensible.
That is interesting to hear, and if this is the case, it’s not in line with what they’re supposed to do under the EU regulations, and I would absolutely advise anyone in that position to challenge the ruling.
I think this is probably less likely, as 37% of the adult French population also rent, according to some online sources.
Hi George
UPDATE
Well I emailed the prefecture to query the request , stating I had sent all bank statements etc.
Also that I presumed my income would be taken into account.
This was reply and I am really unhappy but unsure who to contact. Especially as it does say it’s the EU citizen interests in. My worry is that this is going to happen year after year.
Votre demande est en attente de complément je vous remercie de bien vouloir déposer les documents demandés car sans retour de votre part la demande sera automatiquement clôturée.
Un titre de séjour de 1 an vous sera délivré si les ressources propres de M. ne sont pas suffisantes pour deux.
Pour ce titre de séjour seules les finances de M. sont prises en compte.
Also had one from ANEF as I queried it.
In the event that you do not understand the document to provide, we invite you to contact your prefecture in order to take stock of the file.
If you do not have the expected document, you can attach a handwritten letter explaining your situation in detail and to send all the document that can justify your situation.
It’s crazy surely if this is the case then all EU cases should be treated the same and we know from your experience and others it’s not .