Revenue fiscal de reference

Am I wrong in thinking that RFde R is the figure after the age allowance has been taken off the total of pensions and interest amounts?

This does not appear to be the case when I looked at the expected amount of tax to be paid this year.

It is usually about a third of the way down the first page of your Avis, and quite clearly states “Revenue fiscal de référence” followed by a number, which is what you need.

Thanks for your reply but I think you misunderstood my question.

In the past the Rfr is the amount after all deductions and additions have been calculated, so all your revenue after the 10% reduction plus the interest added, then any age allowance deducted should give the figure. This year it has taken the RFR as the total of revenue plus the interest but not the age allowance deductions.

Maybe it will all come out in the end but it showed me a much higher amount of tax to be paid than I calculated. I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this or is it something I have submitted that is not correct.

Check the return first as the RFR is drawn from the return so a mistake in that will be reflected

In addition to the checks that Jane suggests, for completeness, have you compared the accuracy of the methodology being used by the online return, with the simulateur - to see if the latter comes up with the same (higher than you were expecting) liability?

Hi Jane,

I am sure my return is right but it is the aged persons deduction that I cannot enter as I never do , it gets done automatically by the tax office. I have never bothered with a simulation before either but this year I know I have more tax to pay as our pensions and interest goes over the limit but the simulation showed the RFR before the aged allowance was taken which is not what has happened in the past. It will probably all come out right in the end. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for your input George. I have looked at the site you have given me but it is so different to the form I have filled in so it has just confused me all the more. I will check my boxes again and if I can not find anything to change I will leave it. It was just the figure they quoted for the RFR was before the aged allowance was deducted which is what has always happened in the past. Thanks anyway.

I’m just wondering if you put your year of birth in correctly… so that the computer knows you are “of retirement age” and thus gives you the special age allowance of 10% (up to it’s limit)… when calculating your RFR ???

I am sure it is already filled in, always has been but I will check it tomorrow. I am wondering if the amount of tax due that is shown includes the 7.5% on bank interest as that added to a line that says “tax before credit d’impot” makes the exact amount of tax due. I’ve not seen the two added together before as the social tax is billed separately.

Maybe I am fussing when I don’t need to but I do like to understand how the figures are calculated. We’ve never paid tax on our income before so it is new for me to work out.

Thanks Stella for your input and I will check our correct birthdates are listed.