After many months we both finally have our Attestation de Droits from CPAM. Hurrah!
I now have a few queries. My OH is piggy backing on my S1 as I am retired.
- I have established an Ameli account and notice that now my OH has received the attestion de droits OH is showing in that account too
- OH social security number is showing the same. However, a bit further down the page on the attestion OH has been given another social security number. I presume this is because I am the assured and OH is a beneficiary of my assurance?
- Should I create a separate Ameli account for OH using this secondary social security number?
- On the feuilles de soin which we have been collecting for months for OH, I presume I put in my number as his social sec number, then put in the secondary number as well?
- how are social charges organised from this point on?
Anybody know what is correct to do on this please? Thank you.
The second social security number is indeed your husband’s but he can’t have his own Ameli account until he accesses his own S1. What happened with my partner is that he did have his own Ameli account but the system disabled it as soon as the piggy-backing onto my account was activated.
Everything will now go through your account for the time being!
EDIT: I don’t know what happens with feuilles de soin as it’s years ago that I used them. Your husband’s Medecin Traitant has to establish his link to your account using the details on the Attestation de Droits. Also, if you have a mutuelle, that needs to be linked to your Ameli account for both yourself and your husband. You can’t do that, the insurance company does.
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@AngelaR
Thank you for your reply. I did wonder if everything for OH would be under my account, it makes sense as my being the ‘assured’ with OH piggy backing.
I also think that info makes the feuilles de soin easier to complete with me being the assured and OH being registered with own number but under my account.
For the medecin traitant that makes sense too. We got basically a blank form from her with just our surnames and christian names and her signing it off. She said to complete it with social sec numbers once CPAM replied. Thank you for confirming.
As Angela says everything is under your number and name. I used to be under my partner’s and got rather annoyed when the contacted him about my mammogram, not me!
On the feuille de soins your number as the assuré and his as the beneficiary of the soins.
By social charges what do you mean? Generally on tax form you tick the box for both of you for having an S1, and should automatically only be charged 7.5%.
If you want t backdate to pre-Dec 2023 and ask for pro-rata reduction then the only thing I can think of is to write to tax office and ask for a dégrèvement.
It loos like you were in exactly the same situation that I am now in. I received an S1 as a dependant of my OHs S1 and both have been registered. My account has stopped working as I thought it would, but the OH got a letter saying both of use should mise a jour our cards. OHs was OK but mine was declared as cancelled by the pharmacist. Did your OH need a new card ? Is there something else you did that made it all work ?
Edit: An attestation de droits on the OHs account now shows both our names. It’s just my card that won’t update.
Did the pharmacist take it away? Mine was just blocked for a few weeks, but kept same card… But we were separating accounts and you are amalgamating them so maybe different,
Does your OH’s account show your MT and mutelle as missing? My partner had to talk to the MT and to the mutuelle to link their details to my partner under my account, despite the fact that everything was registered to his account before. Piggy-backing is very useful but an administrative pain-in-the-proverbial
Talking to the mutuelle was the next item on the list, but we needed to know that I was fully sorted out re CPAM first. Not sure if the OHs account shows any of my details beyond the attestation. I’ll check tomorrow morning.
I’m just finding that out now 
. Our local CPAM seemed to think I just needed to do a mise a jour, but It’s obviously much more complicated than that.
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Yes indeed it is! First thing is to check that your MT is registered on your OH’s Ameli account againt you and if not, you got to see them!
Regarding Social Charges, if you have an S1 then you should not be paying them at all because you are not a financial burden on the French Gov’t.
There is a box to tick on your tax return form ( boxes 8SH and 8SI on page 4 of form 2042C ) to state that your healthcare expenses are refunded to France by the UK Gov’t which means that your assessed social charges will be cancelled out by a minus entry when the French Taxman does his calculations. Therefore there is nothing to pay.
It is also worth including a ‘Mention Expresse’ note with your tax return to point out that your healthcare costs are refunded to France by the UK, and that therefore your healthcare is not at French Gov’t expense.
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Only exempt from CRDS and CSG, one still has to pay the 7.5% prélèvement solidaire.
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I think that there is variation between the different tax offices on this point. I know that my tax inspector has some different interpretations of certain rules compared to other areas, so I suppose that it comes down to a matter of a bit of a postcode lottery as to what is charged or not. Anyway, as a mere Third Country National it is certainly not my place to argue with a French tax inspector, especially when their decisions are to my advantage.
So I just keep drowning them in paperwork each year which seems to keep a charge such as you have outlined at bay.
(They insist that I submit my tax return on paper as their online system can’t seem to cope with the vagueries of certain foreign tax treaties.)
I may be mistaken but I believe that Prélèvement Solidaire is only payable on investment / savings income that is not specifically exempt such as an LEP or Livret A account.
Correct. Not payable on pension income according to our impots.
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Yes, but it is not correct to say and S1 exempts one from all social charges, as it doesn’t.