Another innocent teacher killed in the name of religious fanaticism 
Teacher killed in France school stabbing
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OH is teaching at a secondary school in Norwich and there was a pupil on pupil stabbing in a classroom yesterday afternoon, fortunately the pupil wasnāt badly hurt but OH was pretty shaken up when she came home. Sheās only been at the school since the start of the term and has had lots of abuse from pupils who she describes as feral so this has made her a bit concerned, apparently several are caught up in the ācounty linesā drug problem thatās rife here and the local police force visit twice a week to give lectures to the pupils.
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How terrifying, Tory Britain and itāll take a long time to fix. Tim, get her out.
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And one in France too
If sheās not getting the backup/support she is due from āthose in chargeā ā¦ my own advice would be for her to consider moving-onā¦ for her own wellbeing.
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Unfortunately, this is the norm now in schools which is why recruiting staff is so difficult. The level of class disruption is what she is struggling with most, she has been away from the classroom for 18 years and in that time the attitude of kids has changed beyond all recognition, along with the abuse she is expected to teach GCSE science to a boy aged 13 who has the reading capacity of a 6 year old or a girl who canāt speak English and whose first language is Swahili.
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Good griefā¦ my thoughts are with herā¦
I canāt handle violence, I simply have to walk awayā¦
although, having said thatā¦ I will jump-in without a second thoughtā¦ to defend/protect someone else (been there, done that).
How many years of thisā¦ before she retires?
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The students will just be testing how far they can push her, happens to all new teachers in secondary schools now. She needs to be tough and set her limits.
Why is she teaching GCSE science to 13 year olds? They donāt start GCSEāS till Year 10 when they are 14.
Kids learn English really quickly when they hear it all day. Google translate will help initially with text.
Edited to say this sounds really unsympathetic but itās the nature of teaching in secondary schools in some areas. Hope she works it out.
Youāre quite right, the boy is in Year 10.
Iām afraid itās nothing to do with being a ānew teacherā as all the other staff suffer the same abuse, the school has an okay reputation and is actually situated in the most expensive part of the city but I think itās just a sign of the times weāre living in.
As soon as the Arras killing hadhappened, my sonās collĆØge here went into immediate lockdown, no one in or out, gendarmes patrolling all around! It has a high percentage of muslim pupils so no chances being taken plus pupil expelled day before for race hate against one of her own!!
I agree @tim17, itās really tough being a secondary school teacher now. Schools are often not supported by parents and there are rarely serious consequences for poor behaviour.
Pretty absurd comment from you.
Sorry? Itās just that I think the poor old UK is down the toilet in so many ways? The old Tory twin āstrengthsā of managing the economy and law and order are just two of the areas that have collapsed . We all know the state of the economy but now theyāve even run out of prison space in the middle of a knife crime surge. They got rid of your old colleagues in the name of austerity and now they want praise for āincreasingā the number to the level they were before they took power. yes, I do think they are responsible for the runaway crime situation.
BTW, if you put bars on your living room windows you might be able to rent it out to the Ministry of (LoL) Justice, they want to rent jail space in foreign countries. Could be a new category on AirBnB, right beside the one from the Home Office looking for places to put asylum seekers. One couldnāt make it up Plod, could one?
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I have no Tory sympathies whatsoever but your juxtaposition was clear. Stabbing in a school - Tory Britain. What would you have said had I written that the murder of a teacher in a French school was down to broken Macronās France?
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A friend of mine has her two children at primary school here in France. One day children from a newly arrived family join the school. They come from a broken home and are totally disruptive and out of control. Teaching them is impossible and their continuous disruptive behaviour means that all the childre in the class suffer and start to fall behind. The school can do absolutely nothing. The disrupters cannot be removed from the class let alone expelled. The policy is that education has to be inclusive and all pupils are to be treated equally . A group of concerned parents made an official complaint at departmental level but were told that inclusivity was a primary objective and that the right to education is sacrosanct. After about a year the family moved on and everybody breathed a sigh of relief.
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My son has a conseil de discipline nearly every week these days, sometimes twice a week. The parents are totally useless these days, only want schools as babysitters and then moan when their little darlings are caught watching porn on their mobile which is not to be in class, stabbing another pupil with scissors, issuing racial hatred towards a senior member of staff, crapping in their pants and wiping it on the desk, beating each other senseless and then denying it with most of the school watching. I would not be a teacher for all the tea in china these days, bring back the cane or the slipper it never did us any harm!
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Good griefā¦ some horrific tales.
Obviously, areas will differ ā¦
Our local Primary school gets its fair share of kids āwith special needsāā¦ and by that, I mean the kids who need that bit of extra time, understanding and patienceā¦
Some of these kids have witnessed extreme violence etcā¦ not a happy start in life.
Some just need to have their confidence boosted, gently, gently.
In past years I was one of a small group of volunteersā¦ who gave our time as and when required.
Pleased to say that nowadays, there is an improved official support scheme in place, although we volunteers are always ready to answer the call.
Long ago, back in UK, I was involved with kids up to 10 years oldā¦
Over that age and I reckoned they were past savingā¦
I was saying it in jest, of course, as Iād help anyone of any ageā¦ but the under 10ās were the most rewarding in terms of seeing a sad/badly-behaved child blossom into a standard/normal kid (if there is such a thing 
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My son takes some of the SEGPA for classes as well as the mainstream pupils and he much prefers the SEGPA kids for all their faults and they have a good rapport with each other because previous teachers could not be bothered with them and left them to their own devices. He is arranging a trip away soon for them hopefully via his friend who works in Forestry or something in another dept and has suggested a pupil visit to his centre.
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Iām not answering for @John_Scully, but @plod you must have seen a massive decline in the UKās criminal justice system (assuming your moniker wasnāt chosen at random!). The CJS (inclusing policing, prisons, probation, court system, CPS and Legal Aid) have been a forgotten pillar of society for decades (along with, of course, education and the NHS).
France which had a wonderful reputation for its system of education is now not that much different to UK and to some extent, from my knowledge & information, much more dangerous for teachers of all ages.
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