I got myself a couple of fantastic vintage doors (thanks to leboncoin) in great condition, practically free. I managed to install the first one. The second one came with a different system for hanging with these screw in hinges. I’m including a photograph of the bottom half of the hinge that matches those screwed into the door itself.
The screw in part is about an inch deep. My door frame is in wood, with a granite wall behind it. Can you literally just drill a suitable hole and screw these in, or does it require some thing else to be installed into the hole first? The door itself is in wood and glass, and very heavy. Thanks for helping out a total DIY novice! I’ve tried looking online, but can find very little information about these types of hinges.
This is easy and you need to pre drill a hole and then screw in the fiche a visser by hand.
Make sure not to oversize the drill bit an if unsure, practice screwing one in using a bit of scrap wood until you get the correct diameter drill bit.Try your best to get the hole 90 deg to the working plane.
Cheesy french vid to show how to adjust but not fit.
Thanks MikeyPotts - very similar, although I have no screw on the otherside to easily screw it in, I think you just have to turn the whole thing by hand.
Unfortunately, although the door is the perfect dimensions for the frame, the previous door’s hinge system was recessed (tucked up at the back of the frame. This system of hanging the door pushes the whole thing at least a good centimeter out from the edge of the frame, and now I’ve had a proper look I think trying to remove or modify the existing frame is beyond my lowly skill levels.
The ironmongery in your photo is the screw in type. It only goes into raw timber without a nut or a thread insert. (If that makes sense). Do you want to post another photo or are you ok in figuring this out?..
When you say the other hinge is recessed, do you mean like this ?
These hinges are primarily for rebated doors. It sounds to me that you have bought a rebated door and trying to fit it into a full depth rebate made for a square edged door.
More photos required of the edge of your door and the frame you are fitting to.
Thanks MikeyPotts and JohnBoy for your patience. I know I’m not explaining it very well. I got one glass door for 5 euros, and although it wasn’t quite the same system, I did manage to get that one into place, and it’s been working well.
It’s this slightly larger 15 euro one, with the yellow glass (top photo). I wasn’t aware of the hinges at the time of buying it, and thought it’s worth a shot for the price. The photo on the top right shows the existing door and hinge. It’s sort of recessed into the frame, and the pin of the hinge hangs off the back of the door, allowing the door to fit snugly into the existing frame. The yellow glassed door would fit snuggly into the existing frame too, if it had a different system for hanging.
Square pin in round hole!
You have 2 hanging systems and will have to adapt the frame to make the yellow glazed door fit.
I can see that the new door is rebated so for me to advise further I need to know the overall width of the door from both sides and ditto the width of the frame as my rough sketch
Thanks. Not compatible without tweaking either the door or frame.
I can see that the door ‘fits’ into the rebated frame at 822mm when the frame is 830mm but not how it needs to be.
The door should lay on the face of the frame so should be minimum of 840mm. The hinges that came with the door would then work.
You could built out the rebate of the frame but the width of the frame at 800mm would need widening to accommodate the 808mm width of the door.
Its doable but as you have already admitted as a novice it isn’t straightforward.
Sorry I cannot be more helpful, as you say at 15 euros for the door its not the end of the world.
Carpenters have a motto, measure twice, cut once!
Since the introduction of factory fitted doors into their frames the art of fitting a door has sadly been lost.
Thanks JohnBoy and MikeyPotts; although I’d love to have this door installed, it’s clearly not for me. Thankfully very little lost in terms of finances. I’ll keep it somewhere safe and will perhaps get an artisan to do at a later date.
Really appreciate the advice, including the careful attention to measurements. I got lucky installing the other 5 euro door, but it was certainly an experience (had to carefully chisel out the recesses to install the hinges on the opposite side than previously)… I quickly learnt it’s a skilled craft, and beyond my novice skills.
Gareth, if you really love the door (as all doors should be ), you could practice your emerging joinery skills and widen the door by planting (gluing and pinning) hardwood beads into the rebates of the door to make up the shortfall in the width. You will probably need a wood plane or a router but Xmas is coming and a plunge router is an excellent tool (plus ‘G’ clamps and wood glue, and a couple of tressels. A chisel too. With these things, you will be able to cut the recess’ out required for fitting the hinges.
), you could practice your emerging joinery skills and widen the door by planting (gluing and pinning) hardwood beads into the rebates of the door to make up the shortfall in the width. You will probably need a wood plane or a router but Xmas is coming and a plunge router is an excellent tool (plus ‘G’ clamps and wood glue, and a couple of tressels. A chisel too. With these things, you will be able to cut the recess’ out required for fitting the hinges.