It’s not a case of having a foot in both camps, you are always resident in one country even if you have a holiday home in another. Mentioning your wife’s health brings up another important point, healthcare. This is not really a good time to be leaving the country where you are registered for healthcare. If you were planning on relying on an EHIC card that might have triggered the fact that you arrived on holiday when the borders were shut to tourists.
I believe that for the safety of one and all the COVID-19 regulations need to be respected, it’s not a game where cheating and bending the rules can be passed off as banter between lads. ( a very British thing) That sort of philosophy might be good enough for BJ but it’s not good enough for people who take the situation seriously.
I don’t think anybody would advocate flexibility for " criminals who commit violent crimes and crime on a large scale". That’s not what I was talking about.
The next time a discussion comes up that illustrates the difference in French and English (because i think the Scottish are flexible, don’t know about the Welsh and Norther Irelanders are extremely “flexible”) interpretations I’ll flag it and see if anyone agrees.
Thanks, always tunnel, it had crossed my mind, self isolating in my car is fine by me especially for my wife, her sister died of Covid19 just under 5 weeks ago, makes us extra, extra careful.
As for enforcement, I have seen little here. Gradually its gone back to normal in the village although yesterday a couple of parties were broken up. I assume similar is happening in France now.
Life is certainly nowhere near the normal before covid-19…
Normal now is:-
to sometimes not see a soul from one day to the next
to not go near someone should you both be walking on the same section of road
to avoid going out more than the short permitted walk… unless it is absolutely (almost life-threateningly) essential to do so
this is normal… and haven’t seen any changes so far… ![]()
My condolences Philip.
Some say that there is a fundamental difference between the laws in most continental European countries and the UK. Prescription and proscription… Only do what is allowed or do anything unless it’s specifically forbidden.
Perhaps that’s why the French Code de Travail has more pages than the Holy Bible.
It is always easier to find logical excuses for exceptions to regulations that tell you what to.
…and needless to say, the safety of others.
That is why the cross border restrictions were put into force in the first place.
But you, yourself already realise the importance of these restrictions having lost someone close ( your sister-in-law) to Covid 19.
I’m very sorry for your loss.
Apparently in UK some police were enforcing a ministerial statement even before it became law.
absolutely, needless to say…

Good, then its an easy decision to make as to whether to come over or not for a holiday! 
easy to banter back and forth…
I would far rather my family came here to France from UK… since I feel I can keep them safer here… but…
who’s to say what is an easy decision… 
It’s not just a case of them being safer here, it’s what they may or may not be bringing over with them. 
(Hence my previous comment concerning the safety of others.)
Absolutely… as I say… it is not an easy decision…
David… you are misunderstanding my comment… (if it was to me that your comment was intended)… 
I think you have made your (entirely understandable) stance completely clear. I also think everyone has their own moral compass and this thread is perhaps now best left alone. Thanks!
So funny! I should be flexible then - but I’m not particularly… and my friends aren’t either. I actually have a terrible overactive conscience and feel guilty at the drop of a hat.
I can think of 2 people who are flexible to the point of possibly getting a job in a Chinese circus, one is French, the other is English.
I suppose it’s birds of a feather Vero. I think all of my friends display a degree of flexibility. Life’s so complicated and contrary, it’s hard to be too ridged without being disappointed a lot IMO. That guilt thing is bad too Vero, I’m sure it’s unfounded and it’s not good for one’s moral.
We only live once so good luck to your two acquaintances, if that’s their dream they should do it. Emotion wise, possibly the only thing worse than misplaced guilt is regret of opportunities squandered.
Is she within the same Department as you can travel over 100km if it is still within the same department.
It will be interesting to see what the new attestation says, it’s quite likely that it will be a perfectly acceptable reason to make the journey especially as they are keen to cut down on the number of people using public transport.