Every commercial activity (ie where money changes hands) should have a Siret. They are being used more and more to verify legality of a business/person.
They are planning to return in the autumn, they have to collect Nicks sunglasses . Oops sorry later read @AngelaR got there first!
I am just wondering if getting a Siret has other traps. I’ve retained my UK Ltd for now, but I am wondering if getting a Siret proactively could be useful in case at some point an opportunity cones up to do something in France.
There isn’t a general Siret. You register for a single specific activity, and can add others. However a soecific code exists for each type of activity. So for honey the NAF code is here -
@anne_elvidge just had a though…could be worth looking at local associations who may well be interested in helping. So they sell the honey for their good cause and give you your “expenses”.
I think, and hope, that the word ‘commercial’ is the important one here, although I am almost long past being paid for my dog journeys.
However, way back when I was asked to do my first one about 14 years ago, I realised that I might be straying, especially as an immigrant, into dangerous territory and so, from that very first one, I have kept detailed records of what I was doing and what I was receiving in monetary terms for doing it. I was always encouraged by the fact that my accurate total expenses for running my car and for nights away from home were way below what people such as Fran’s aides received when using their own cars for work without being subjected to tax on those receipts.
Being reimbursed for actual expenses as a volunteer is allowed! France is a bit nuts about restrictions, but not that mad.
Yes, I thought, and hoped, that would be the case, but thought, belt and braces, I would be sure. Even so my known, and I have carefully worked out all costs of running my vehicle, costs were always some 20 odd centimes/km below what the taxman allows here.
If the money is not the primary aim for selling surplus stock, then ask the Mairie to sell some jars for the local charity?
They do this in our village. (79)
Happy Bee Keeping. I hope to invest in some hives in a few years time once works slows down.
Activities that are technically illegal are not necessarily wrong, especially when the illegality stems from the absence of certifications, versus something like robbery. My neighbor sells us RATAFIA which is a local specialty alcohol drink. I wish they would be generous enough to give it to us. but everyone around here is either actually or pretending to be short on money.
It’s not technically illegal; to make and sell alcohol without proper licences is illegal. Full stop.
Deciding which laws are right or wrong in a civilised democracy is not an option.
Just because one may not agree with a law gives you no right to break it, and if one does then one should accept a €3,750 fine for illegal sale of alcohol.
And if your mate tops up his ratafia with methanol and causes your liver to fail then what?
Ah… he obviously considers you a “client”…
A good deal of our local life revolves around people helping one another as and when…
and, on occasion, sharing whatever they have to offer… must confess this is usually something edible but we receive quite a few bottles of this and that… hic
Sharing is great, and even exchanging. But selling is a bit different,
I have a question on honey that I may as well post here rather than a new thread: When is honey not honey??
I love honey - particularly honey in the comb, but very hard to get these days. Honey I know ranges in price, often for no reason. But a while back in leClerc, I noiced a 1kg tub of cremeaux at 8 odd euros that I bought as it had ‘product of Ukraine and Bulgaria’, so anything to help them was worthwhile. It tastes good, indeed comparable to many overpriced jars in some markets. The tub does not have a list of what is inside, other than product of Ukraine and Bulgaria.
I read on t’internet that some honey rip offs have added sugar and are tainted with cornstarch. Outside of a published list of ingredients, how can one tell if honey is/has been adulterated? In my mind, I have a cost per kg of 11 odd euros. Is 8 € suspicious?
Bulgarian honey at that price is most likely repackaged honey from a.n.other non EU country. But if you like the taste is that an issue?
My sister is a beekeeper and says there will be a difference in melting point if it has cheap sugars added - but maybe added cornstarch would mask that?
I don’t really like honey, but somehow seem to keep being given it so have tubs of the stuff from many different beekeepers. All totally and authentically real. I only ever use it for cooking, and it is hard to dissolve, even the runny honey sits in a blob. So maybe try that?
Do not get me wrong - yes, this Ukranian honey I like. Tastes great, saves me money and supports Ukraine. I just wish to ascertain that it has not been adulterated. Until I know, then I shall continue with it. Except of course when I come across proper honey…
All for supporting the Ukraine, but also like supporting our local honey makers in the Lot Valley, who sell their honey on the local markets. There’s lots of hives in the woods around our house and it’s mainly chestnut honey with a very distinctive taste but only €5 for 500 gms; I like to think our garden may have made some small contribution.
Unfortunately I don’t think there is a foolproof test to find out if honey has been adulterated - otherwise the honey “industry” would not have such a problem with it.
There are various “tests” given online if you do a Google search but apparently some pure honeys will fail these too.
Knowing the actual source of the honey (e.g. buying local) is probably the only sure way.
I have 2 good friends in the Honey “business” in our commune … their product is totally local and unadulterated… I’ve witnessed some of the procedure and am always happy to taste the results…
Yes, they are registered and sell their product to locals “on their list”… some is handed around as gifts at Christmas…
They are not in the Honey trade simply to make money but due to their love of Bees…
they are both “of an age” now and I hope some younger enthusiasts will step up to the mark… to keep the tradition going…
Oh for FS re the siret numbers and dire warnings of prison time.
This is France where all actual French people know exactly which laws to obey and which to ignore.
I’m going to be in 50530 between 05 and 18 August and happy to smuggle the contraband down south for illicit distribution to any interested parties…