My interest is for Mme in UK for extended FR absence period for looking after her mum (medical) and her own medical checkups. What might a prefecture deem a ‘serious medical condition’ for the allowed 1 year single absence in the treaty?
So one french friend opined - don’t ask the prefecture, they won’t know
Another enquired at the UK French embassy when they happened to be there - feedback if your passport is not being stamped don’t see a big issue (first response was = ask the prefecture!). Do gather statement(s) from medical staff.
Anyway, I could possibly venture passport stamping with CdS are a thing of the past as the last two recent trips, one air and one ferry, had scrutiny of CdS both ways and no stamping - on the air one I saw passports stamped, not ours, so it wasn’t coz they had run out of ink!
Larkswood just a thought, I know logistically it might be much harder but would it not be more convincing if her own medical care and checkups was based in the French health system? Even if it means extra trips back
The statement is correct. The Entry/Exit System (EES) will be an automated IT system for registering travellers from third-countries, both short-stay visa holders and visa exempt travellers, each time they cross an EU external border. see Entry-Exit System - European Commission
Those with residence permits will go through the same channel as those with EU passports, which presumably includes a separate checking system?.
@Graham ETIAS has nothing to do with passport stamping. It is a detailed pre-entry security check system to determine whether applicants can be allowed to enter any Schengen Zone country. Currently it is only planned to apply to those from countries where there is visa-free entry.
The EU are still discussing reforms of the Schengen Borders Code for internal borders IMMC.COM%282021%29891%20final.ENG.xhtml.1_EN_ACT_part1_v9.docx
If I’ve understood correctly…
Those of us with an EU Permanent Resident CdS can swan down the EU channel… rather than dither, hither and thither…??
not that I intend to cross outside-Schengen for the foreseeable… but it would be nice to have the knowledge firmly in my brain… just in case a trip does crop up and I find myself trying to get-back-within Schengen… and floundering.
With my recent trip to the UK, when I handed my passport over at the check before boarding, the customs officer rifled through my passport, and when he couldn’t find a stamp, asked me where I lived. I responded France and handed over my CdS and then he was all smiles, gave me a big Merci and didn’t stamp my passport. When I returned to France, I joined the far far shorter EU line and when I got to the checkpoint, duly handed my passport over, with CdS and the customs lady again gave me a big grin and waved me through. Seems like they feel anyone with a CdS has been ‘converted’ and on side All in all, a pleasant, and very simple experience
EES, which replaces passport stamping, is now planned to be implemented May 2023. TCN holders will not need to go through EES but through the non-EES (EU passport) channel.
ETIAS is now planned to be implemented by Nov 2023 with requirement for all a few months later.
And perhaps, if you had bothered to review what you had recalled, read the earlier discussion and considered the current status of the two entirely separate programmes and compared all the information, you might have realised it was not valid, so not worth repeating.
Goodness, that sounds like a lot of work for a sunny Saturday afternoon. If I tried that, I’d have forgotten why I had started before I was half way through
I want to thank both @anon37731102 and @graham for their posts, this is an informative topic and indeed thanks to all contributors. And if there’s any ‘grey’ areas or a post is maybe not quite correct or misunderstood etc, that’s OK for me too because as an advice consumer I do read across all posts etc and I appreciate all advice / thoughts is offered on a sort of ‘best efforts’ basis.
Yup, that’ll be the aim I presume going forward - any further healthcare work done in France in the next few years - it’s just she had those consultants booked in from pre-Covid really, so it was prob best to keep in that system for the pre-existing…
Roll on a good mutuelle!
And her mum wasn’t in France anyway though of course those medical needs may not count for absence. But as said if no passport stamping then unlikely to become an issue?
There are many… @fabien will be your guiding light through the fog - tailored exactly as you need it. He placed us with Swiss Life - maybe not the least expensive but they certainly pay up promptly and give us greater confidence.
I recall reading the thread and have had a fabian quote and also one from the bank -which was actually less! 100 euro / month for two, GP, hospital, outpatients at 100% reimbursement - Understand that if consultants needed might need to consider a higher reimbursment rate…
choosing a mutuelle will need a fair degree of thought…
Generally speaking, something like 150% reimbursement seems to work well, given that the 100% is only 100% of the statutory amount, not the real amount. I have a bank mutuelle which does 100% and it doesn’t cover the whole of “normal” specialist appointments - I’ve not yet tried expensive consultant appointments although I think that is in the post!
All in all, a pleasant, and very simple experience 
