Has the ban on plug and play solar been confirmed? We are just considering it now and then read that from August this year it may be banned.
Given the number advertised that seems odd. Where did you read that?
The issue with them that i know of is that they are not eligible for grants.
https://particuliers.engie.fr/pourquoi-choisir-engie/conseils-transition-energetique/conseils-electricite/aides-panneaux-solaires-plug-and-play.html
All over the place. The issue was with health and safety, possibility of fire etc, though I suspect pressure from suppliers of expensive roof-top systems were behind it.
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It would be great if you could provide an actual example or link. I’m very keen to learn more about this but haven’t managed to find anything about it.
I saw this on QC
The conclusion - if I read it correctly - is “yes and no”, and someone using such a system will need to check the regulations carefully to ensure his application meets the criteria. I imagine an installation which is hors de normes would affect insurance, for example.
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Thank you, @Porridge. That sheds some light on the situation which, it seems, may not be as black as the OP suggested.
The electrical normes NFC 15 is being updated.
It states permanent solar must be installed to the tableau with dedicated protection. Which isn’t really a change.
Plug and play kits fall into a grey area - they’re arguably temporary. NFC covers the fixed installation - your kettle isn’t part of NFC ergo s plug and play kit isn’t fixed so can’t be part of NFC either.
Existing installations won’t be affected.
The reality is what ENEDIS decides it means - CASCI declaration or the full “installer or Consuel” paper.
I’ve considered putting solar on the shed (though it’s a terrible location hence only “considered”) - just for a 12V DC supply so I can have some light in there.
Please tell me this would not be forbidden.
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How about something like this?
You’ll need to click the “Watch Youtube” link.
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I was thinking of a single 250W panel, AliExpress charge controller, about a 20Ah battery and around 40W of 12v led lighting strip.
If I’m careful that should get just enough daylight to keep the battery charged.
And whos going to be checking anyway? My single 400 w panel and Ali Express charge controller. Expec
Just be aware that if you have plug and play solar ( I do ) , you have to complete the notification to ENEDIS that you have it and provide the approval document for the inverter it is using.
Also, there are plenty of professionally installed solar systems having issues and causing fires - usually the inverter and often in loft spaces where they used to tend to install them.
Which would seem to make small DC installations (why waste power converting to 230V only to have the lumière drop it down to a lower voltage anyway) immune to this regulation as it will never be “directly connected to [a] standard home outlet”.
That’s the thing - there wouldn’t be an inverter.
One snag is that I couldn’t just put the panel on the shed roof - it slopes to the west but is heavily shaded by trees that side, I might be able to angle it the other way so it catches the morning sun but it would stick out like a sore thumb. It’s one of the reasons it has been in the “maybe think about” list rather than the “to do” list - and the “to do” list is quite long anyway (I blame a shortage of round tuits).
The house itself would be great for solar having a slightly SE facing roof at the back and I have also vaguely considered setting up a 12V system for running a server permanently for backup purposes with a panel on the garage roof.
Have you looked at Bimble solar, several large ish flexible panels available, very hard to spot.
Sorry, not sure i understand your answer. My plug and play solar definitely has an inverter.
Billy is talking of a solar panel to provide just low voltage DC to lighting in a garage so no inverter needed.
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Wouldn’t the cost of all that kit buy an awful lot of hours of 220volt LED lighting ?